To want to live in nicer area?

[RuinedLife]

I am living in a nice new build area, it is not rural though but near to the semi rural areas around. Mix of immigrants (mainly indian and chinese, EU) and majority is white British. I myself is an indian immigrant. As all new builds, a few houses are council tenants, white british only. By all standards it is a very nice area, but we had many many incidents of trespassing, leaving garbage at main door, destroyed newly planted hedge, scratching cars, leaving dirty nappy at garden entrance, ringing doorbell runaways etc. These all done by children (as young as 3 upto 18 year olds and young adults) from council houses (seen them doing it!), they have been given warnings by police but no improvements. Now we don't even report it! We were told by another neighbour that council tenants don't like well settled immigrants (with cars and houses) and hence they keep doing it. It is never done to white british households around us. We tend to ignore it all assuming they are the people who don't know any better.
Anyways, we are trying to move up the property ladder and finalised a house in a semi rural leafy area. Upper middle class area, super nice swanky houses and no social housing for miles. All the residents own their houses and fields and horses and RRs, settled there for generations, family money, all white british.
I am bit worried that what if they don't like an immigrant moving in there and we face similar situations there? They definitely won't throw garbage but then what could they do? We have no reason to believe that it will happen but I couldn't be able to ignore if it does. Wouldn't be able to ignore it because those people do know better. But after Brexit and Trump, I am afraid nobody likes idea of immigrants settling. AIBU?

You seem to have a few issues ..

1. With council tenants

1. With the white british ,, , how absurd ay ? White people in Britain !

If you switched this thread around it would be seen as racist . Way to go OP.

Oh that old chestnut Meadow Hay .

I as a white woman have suffered racist abuse whilst 8 months pregnant for some "nice" group of young non white men !! Always the same pulled out isn't it ? The fact is the OPs post is racist !!

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Meadowhay I HAVE been the victim of racism and I still think the OP is racist. She needs to change her attitude.
You want to be accepted into a community where you don't accept anyone and are prejudiced. Maybe make an effort with your neighbours rather than expecting everyone to be fabulous to you when you ARENT doing the same. You will be moving into a community of people who have probably lived there for years, it's YOUR responsibility to make sure that you make an effort! Stop feeling sorry for yourself. You live in one of the most accepting countries I've ever been lucky enough to live in

Stilltryingtobeme the line you quoted was said to me by my another white British neighbour ( non council). I was very surprised because before to that I didn't know anything about council houses (fresh off the boat!). They helped us mend our destroyed hedge and often clear nappies thrown at our door. Ask us if we are OK after such incidents. Often tell off those children if they see them near our cars. I am friendly and they are friendly. Do you want me to ring police on a 6 yr old child who calling me colour of poop? Really? I wrote in my OP that all incidents are from children. Also, if I report every abuse, I will hold up the police from their real job and wouldn't do my job as I will be on phone with the police reporting every single day. Somebody has to pay tax eh? Being an immigrant with 'no recourse to public fund' I can't keep complaining but have to keep a job.

Gooseygoosey I deserve garbage thrown at if I am keeping to myself? I am not expecting them to be fabulous to me, just please don't destroy my property and don't call names and don't throw rubbish on my property, thanks! With the neighbors I can connect to, I very well connect! I just can't speak with somebody who uses fu#^ and cu#% in every single sentence after every single word, in front of their children.

Generalisations about any racial group - and that includes "white British" as you call
them - are unacceptable.

Cars aspen I agree and my apologies. Never meant to come across like that. I wanted to show that I will be a minority, will look into word it differently from now on.

Thank you.

With this post, I can see where I am going wrong with my thinking. I am worried for no reason for my future. Brexit and then Trump has shaken my belief system and existence as an immigrant, I have to start believing in goodness again and see things in positive light. There are and there will be good people everywhere!

I'm not sure why you have to keep specifying about council tenants
If I introduced myself to you as a white woman living in a council flat what would you assume I was like OP?
Then if I introduced myself as a qualified nurse who lived with my husband and daughters in London what would you think I was like?
You've written a goady and offensive post

OP, I think your experiences have coloured your opinion somewhat and your first post is incredibly inflammatory.

However: Having shite neighbours/community is not necessarily a race issue. These arseholes will pick on any decent human being for whatever reason - and the only thing they can come up with for you is their racist diatribe.

I can't speak for England as I am in Scotland, but there are lots of places that aren't like that. Leafy or council/ex council. There's lots of decent towns, villages and cities that you could be happy in.

In your shoes, I'd move if the house/area/schools/work etc makes you happy. You can't possibly pre-empt your neighbours though. I'd urge you to be as open minded as you'd expect from them.

You obviously thought it was a good decision to move there when you bought the house, this is just fear talking. Don't let your past experience make you paranoid about this move. Approaching all white British people with fear and hostility due to perceived racism will cause them to be hostile but because you have been so standoffish not because they are racist! If you approach them with an open mind, warmth and positivity, they will get to know you, just like anyone else as it 99% is an issue in your mind and not theirs.

When did I say you deserved that exactly? But making generalisations about people is NOT OK!! "White British" people are not all the same as that and you do actually live in Britain so you'll be hard pushed to not live near British people that you, for some reason, seem to dislike. You will get the odd moron wherever you live, and believe it or not sometimes they're from other races! I know, shock horror right? If I wrote this about "black African" people for example, I would be called a racist.

Actually OP I think you have justified concerns. I don't think you are being racist but are suffering from racism. There are a certain type of white working class British who are overtly racist and unpleasant. They tend to live in poor communities/ council estates. That is not to say every tenant is nasty, that all council home tenants are racist or criminals but there are some. Brexit was, after all most closely linked to poverty and education. The racist rubbish that some newspapers poured out under Farages lead was shocking- and some sad people believed it.
It is not inevitable, it is not the norm and many immigrant families are very happily settled in lovely towns and cities across the country. Integration is evident in most hospitals where staff live and work side by side with all nationalities.
OP there are places I really wouldn't want to live because of the attitudes and behaviour you described - and I am white. Your new place may still,have odd cultural attitudes because it is same people 'a step up'. I hope this isn't the case. Overt behaviour is likely to be better and you are more likely to find greater tolerance to racial differences. There are plenty of places with very mixed communities that work well.

Thanks crumbs, this makes me feel so very positive!