To think this person should not be a biology teacher?

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My son is yr 8, and had had concerns about his biology teacher for a while. She has often been totally unprepared for their lessons so they are told to just read from their textbooks, she can't use the whiteboard & often sets incomprehensible homework or on subjects that they haven't studied yet. She is new, so we hoped these were just teething issues and would improve. Howe er, DS came home on Friday and announced that she has said that she doesn't believe in Evolution and (I quote) 'I don't believe an explosion (I.e. The Big Bang) could create a house'
WTF????
Would we be unreasonable to approach the school about this?!

As an irrelevant aside, I don't have an IWB now, there were none in the Science department of my old school, nor the one before that.

Approach the school. Evolution is in the curriculum in this country and he will be tested on it. I impart evolution workshops for schools so I know.
You need to tell the school. This is bonkers.

Am I Spartacus
The British Humanist Association and the British Centre for Science Education have been raising issues with Accelerated Christian Trust for years . I would add to this organisation the Christian Education Trust and Rudolf Steiner schools as causes for concern that should be investigated.

The Free school ideology is assisting the establishment of such schools.

This Independent article saddens me to the bone . That it itself has not been given any greater media interest and acted upon swiftly like care home abuses are are also a great concern. Are these organisations protected high up in the establishment? In this case I really do hope the Daily Mail pick this topic up and run with it.

Donna Yes CMI visited the school. I was furious, resulted in the CrISIS campaign which had some effect. Found out the head of RE had creationist leanings as did the Chair of Governors . HT didn't but was ineffectual.
Have you seen the CMI events page with lists of where they are visiting times of meetings e.g. Straight after school . Titles aimed at kids. And I am sure some "ministry events" are actually school visits as my kids school was termed that.

They are still there trying to manipulate children , funded largely from abroad.

My blood is boiling right now very !
We are well aware of the dangers fundamentalists in other religions but not it appears , Christian fundamentalists who are dangerous in other ways.

Christian fundamentalists can be murderers too. Just look at the anti-abortionists in the US.

Fundamentalists in the US have also targeted outspoken critics of the teaching of creationism to children. Bombs under cars and threats to families. Not nice.

BertrandRussell and FenellaMaxwell

Calling creationism 'bonkers' is disrespectful to the process by which we arrived to today's enlightenment.

Let's just say, it helped us get to where we are today.

I love the innocence of it all. Surely we are big enough and assured enough not to feel threatened by giving 'creationism' its dues?

Calling creationism 'bonkers' is disrespectful to the process by which we arrived to today's enlightenment.

I'm not sure how you can be disrespectful to a process.

Yeah bonkers is much too polite

I love the innocence of it all. Surely we are big enough and assured enough not to feel threatened by giving 'creationism' its dues?

Bully for you. Unfortunately, the Enlightenment has to be defended, the forces of unreason are regrouping and there's no room for complacency. There's no place for creationism outside RE lessons.

1. Processes are not salient entities - you can't disrespect one.
2. On that note, giving any credence to creationism whatsoever would surely be disrespectful to scientific progress....

Calling creationism 'bonkers' is disrespectful to the process by which we arrived to today's enlightenment.

What is bonkers is teaching it as having equal validity to evolution, or indeed teaching it as having any credence at all. If anything the historical aspect should be taught on the same basis as we teach about beliefs such as the flat earth theory.

I love the innocence of it all. Surely we are big enough and assured enough not to feel threatened by giving 'creationism' its dues?

What dues? I don't mind it being treated as a quirky historical belief, but surely that is the limit of its relevance?

I love the innocence of it all. Surely we are big enough and assured enough not to feel threatened by giving 'creationism' its dues?

Mike Pence believes in it. We're an impeachment away from having one of these lunatics as POTUS. You're far too complacent.

Innocent it's not. But you might be if you think that. It has no credence and this dangerous ' tolerance' / insistence of ' respecting it' is taking us down a hell hole.

If Queen is actually in Louisiana she may well have no choice.

I don't think she is in the US. She mentioned a faith school. If she is in Louisiana, or anywhere else in the US, it's not a state school if it's a faith school.

By disrespecting the process I meant it disrespect the people who have gone before us, our fellow men, our forefathers, our ancestors - who didn't have the information we have today and hence developed this process (creationism) to explain their world, our world! Why is that bonkers? It's pure history, that's all.

Anyway, I've done my fair share of DNA sequencing and I know how similar life on Earth is, at the most fundamental level. You have to admit, it can look like there was a single spark (god? bang?) that 'created' the whole lot. Even if it was when one nucleotide joined (hands) with another in that muddy, primordial soup before light appeared through the dark and dusty atmosphere ...

A single spark creator is NOT the same as Creationism with a capital C which would be a literal belief in Genesis.

It's not history though is it. It's being taught today when we know better. That's not bonkers?

Firstly 'men' and 'forefathers'? Heaven forbid that any women throughout history should have troubled their delicate little lady brains with science.... Also, so you think we should respect the men you spent their lives dedicated to disproving creationism by respecting creationism? No thanks. Galileo Galilee spent years in prison for suggesting the Earth revolves around the sun. Pretty sure he wouldn't thank us for treating the Vatican's firm belief that we and God were the centre of creation as a quaint little story to still tell our children.....

Stone age thinking with twenty first century weaponry is working out so well for the world innit. So innocent. All the beautiful art and literature created in praise of various almighties was never created under duress and fear either. It's all especially great for women.

Fenella Maxwell

"Firstly 'men' and 'forefathers'? Heaven forbid that any women throughout history should have troubled their delicate little lady brains with science."

Oh, but I thought 'creationism' wasn't science?

Something 'men' invented, no?

DoctorDonnaNoble

"A single spark creator is NOT the same as Creationism with a capital C which would be a literal belief in Genesis."

Not necessarily. Genesis is not the only source of a/the Creation myth.

counterpoint Nowhere did I say creationism was science?

I was talking about the people who evolved our knowledge, hence my talking about Galileo. You suggested that only men came up with theories to explain our existence, not me.

Step Away From The Stealth Fundamentalist!

I agree with Bertrand Russell , no point arguing with YEC , waste of time. Save your energy. This post was originally about the stealth infiltration of YEC into UK schools, now illegal in free schools , academies and LA schools , and an entirely inappropriate teacher. OP did you get back to the school?

*FenellaMaxwell

"counterpoint Nowhere did I say creationism was science?"*

But when I laid the blame on men/forefathers for the creation myth, you were piqued thatIi had not attributed it to women because they couldn't trouble their "delicate little lady brains with science." - ergo, you equate creationism with science!