To neither know or care if anything I've written on here has appeared on the Daily Mail website?

[GilMartin]

The whole Daily Mail thing is tiresome. Not them quoting from this website, that's just lazy journalism driven by a need to generate a near constant supply of stories at near zero cost.what I've found a thousand times more irritating than the Daily Mail and its crappy churnalism/clickbait is comments along the lines of:

'I hate the Daily Mail with a passion and I've just seen on their website that they've taken a story from a thread.'

• If you hate it so much why are you reading their website and contributing to their advertising revenue?

'I'd like to help you op, but I don't want my opinions spread all over the Daily Mail'

• well I guess I'll have to live without whatever earth shattering pearl of wisdom you were going to dispense. Why post that mealy mouthed cotter? If you don't want to post, don't post anything. If you think humanity can't live without your piercing insights or your unique capacity for empathy into the human condition, train as a counsellor or sign up for the Samaritans.

'Interesting first post op are you a DM journalist looking for a story?'

• if you think that's the case, report the thread. A snidey comment isn't going to make a hardened hack breakdown and tearfully confess to their misdeeds is it? Also, there's so much far fetched stuff on AIBU, why would a hack go to the bother of making it up?

'MNHQ make the Daily Mail stop doing it'

• stop what? Using information you've put in the public domain on a popular website anyone can access?

'Let's all change our user names to something that includes "the daily mail are massive cunts" that'll stop them'

• no it won't and you'll look a childish prat in the process.

'My privacy has been invaded'

• no it hasn't, because you've put it all out there and once you do it is out of your control. If you're foolish enough to put identifyable information on these boards, then you've only got yourself to blame and you shouldn't expect people to save you from your own stupidity and failure to exercise appropriate caution online.

Either post something or don't, but save us the hypocritical and po-faced arseaching about the Daily Mail. They could have reproduced every word I've ever written online for all I know or care, because I don't use their website and I understand the consequences of posting stuff on the internet.

So you start another thread about the DM just to show how cool you are with it...

i don't think there's anything wrong in posters reminding an OP that what they are posting could end up elsewhere. Especially if it's a very identifying thread.

Unfortunately some people aren't as internet savvy and aware as others.

I agree bakeoff and actually I'm glad that posters do remind (or tell them for the first time) others that their posts can end up on DM.

So you start another thread about the DM just to show how cool you are with it...

No, just in frustration that it seems to be the obsession du jour and the howls of faux outrage that great every instance of it (presumably by people who fund the Daily Mail online by reading it) and the demands for presuably competent adults to saved from their own actions because they hadn't realised a public forum is well, public and no not just the lovely boden-clad, spelt bread making , Volvo owning public, but anyone.

I completely agree with you OP. MN is not the club or secret society that many posters seem to think it is, and I can't understand why people think it is. We spend hours teaching our children not to post anything on social media that they wouldn't say IRL, yet posters still think they have a right to anonymity here.

MN needs to stop selling itsself as a place for support then.

It's clearly not.

not just the lovely boden-clad, spelt bread making , Volvo owning public, but anyone.

What the ever loving fuck does "class" have to do with the discussion?

There are vulnerable people in every class of society.

I said this on a phone a thread the other day it's Ott and people are getting boring.

But what a shame journalism has descended so far. Reading a newspaper used to be a pleasure; well written, thoughtful, researched. It's a shame now that it is just a picture and a cheap thrill. I miss journalism.

YANBU OP.

It always amuses me when a thread here turns up on a paper or The Wright Stuff.

But then again, I'm a regular reader of the DM website and also make an informed decision to vote Tory which also incites a hilarious reaction on here.

MN needs to stop selling itsself as a place for support then.

It's clearly not.

Well, yes, it is. People can choose to post for support and offer support and they do. But they also treat us like adults who have enough sense to self select about what to post. Frankly if you're silly enough to post identifying information on a discussion board then that's your problem.

Does it appear in the print version? I presumed it was only online.

Well that's the other thing isn't it slack? An awful lot of the outrage is nothing really to do with privacy concerns, it's a chance to stick the boot into a publication whose politics they don't like:

It's not just the DM, don't some threads trend on FB or have I made that up? I think posters have to remember to be a bit more discreet because stuff on here could end up anywhere.

Personal issues I can take or leave.

BUT I have some issues at work that involve multiculturalism and are racially and religiously sensitive. I would very, very much welcome input from a diverse section of society as I work in a liberal enclave.

However, there is no way I want it turned into a DM excuse to be racist and little Englander "political correctness gone mad" type story.

So I won't post. I'll stick to parking threads. It's a shame.

pen I don't recognise the tabloids as ever being 'well though they're out and researcher's my mother read the Daily Mail and Express when I was a youngster and it was a non stop diet of invective, hate mongering with a side order of showbiz tittle-tattle even back then. The Sun which was the paper of choice at my other relatives' houses, page three girls, blatant lies (Hillsborough), jingoism, gross simplifications, thinly veiled racism and sexism.

Hence the reason I have no desire to read it either print or online versions as an adult.

What the ever loving fuck does "class" have to do with the discussion?

Because the attitude seems to be, I want to put this information out there on a public forum, but only want some of the public to access it. Not them out there, tabloid readers and the such but just us here in what they seem to imagine is a giant extended chat with close friends over coffee.

I totally agree, OP.

This is a public forum. Anything you write can be viewed by anyone anywhere in the world with internet access.

Don't post stuff that you mind others seeing.

Sometimes I think people think that they are just asking for opinions from a select group of friends. They aren't.

There is a rich irony when people post details on a PUBLIC forum and then whinge that their PRIVACY has been violated.

So you think that MNers posting here actually think that they are posting to an exclusive audience of lovely boden-clad, spelt bread making , Volvo owning public,

Really, really?

I was quoted in a DM article years ago , which had been lifted straight from here. My only objection to it, was the fact that they said I was gushing.

I have never gushed in my life .

And when I say years ago, I mean about twelve years ago.

So it is not a new occurence.

I asked a DM reporter once why the DM takes so many threads for its stories, didn't get much of an answer though.

But she did say that mumsnet users are one of their big demographics, despite all the DM hate

Actually I lie, it was eight years ago.

YABU. For starting another thread about the daily mail.

dire I think a lot of people imagine they are posting to an audience very like them and their friends and mumsnet sees itself as something of a middle-class enclave. Witness the thinly veiled class-based sneering aimed at netmums or posters who can't grasp that the person they're dishing out advice to doesn't have the same access to resources as they do hence comments like: 'learn to drive and buy your own car', 'retrain and set up your own business' etc.

I'm astonished that so mnet posters know that mnet threads are in the mail. How do they manage to read and assess the Daily Mail when they can't even read a fucking op properly before replying.

For example I started a thread amused that Matthew Wright screen shot a post with the word cunting in it.

However, several posters started default hand wringing on the thread about Wrighty and the DM and came up with the brilliant suggestion of swearing in ops so they couldn't be screenshot

IF YOU CANNOT EVEN BE ARSED TO READING THE FUCKING OPENING POST OF A FUCKING THREAD THAN WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE SO MUCH WHERE IT ENDS UP?! At least journos can be arsed to read Mumsnet properly.