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To be laughing at this?

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Ilovecaindingle · 13/01/2017 17:39

My ds12 has just started a new school and has his first science lesson today. We were catching up on his day and he said they had to do an experiment. The experiment was to heat a peanut up to a certain temp and record when it burnt etc. But due to school allergy advice they aren't allowed to use a peanut.

So he used a Wotsit instead!!
Now I am def not laughing regarding allergy advice obviously but what things do kids accept as normal now that didn't occur to us /happen when we went to school?

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HappyFlappy · 16/01/2017 10:55

stitchglitched

If you mean the vile term spastic it was an autocorrect/predictive text error. I did not, and never would, use that term. I meant to type "sarcastic" but unfortunately didn't proof read before I posted.

When I had said "Pardon me" regarding an error I had made re: people with Downes, I was being genuinely apologetic. Unfortunately text doesn't allow for emphasis.

It interests me that many of the people who, when someone makes a critical comment about (say) a bad-tempered, rude person in a shop, will jump on the poster with "How do you know s/he hasn't got a hidden disability? Is having a bad day? Most toothache? or whatever, but don't seem to give the benefit of the doubt to other posers when there may be a misunderstanding.

Thank you Gwen and randomer for your understanding - I appreciate it.

And FWIW, I wanted that particular post deleted myself. And if hazy hadn't repeated my insult, that would have gone too.

HappyFlappy · 16/01/2017 10:56

*Most toothache - has toothache

Autocorrect strikes again.

HappyFlappy · 16/01/2017 10:57

*posers - posters

(Seems appropriate in some ways though Grin)

hazeyjane · 16/01/2017 11:18

Happy, I don't know about diagnosing people in retrospect, but isn't it possible to assume that in the past some people with neurodevelopmental conditions may have gone undiagnosed and unsupported?

I said earlier other reasons - more infant mortality due to conditions now treatable, more accessibility to education for children with health issues, more inclusion in mainstream, better medical and diagnostic pathways. I understand you don't think there were necessarily children who would have been labelled 'odd' 'slow' 'naughty' etc, it would now receive a diagnosis, but do you think there are other reasons why there would appear to be more children with health conditions and disabilities in school now?

I am sorry for assuming you were being a bit passive aggressive in your 'pardon me....' I have got used to the term pc being used as an insult and a way to shut someone down. I dont like things being. deleted, so sorry for that assumption

HappyFlappy · 16/01/2017 13:52

hazey

I did say in my original post that I thought that probably there were many children who were kept at home rather than sent to school because of their conditions - and I have to admit that for a large chunk of my school life I would have been too young to be aware of many, even if they were recognised at the time.

I think that now there is not only more awareness of different conditions (and as you say, many children survive illnesses nowadays who would have died even 20 years ago, but often there is a physical or mental disability as a result, or both), but importantly, there is provision for these children to be educated in mainstream school (there were certainly "special: schools when I was younger). As a result of this inclusivity more conditions will be obvious, and because there is no longer the shame attached to having a child with a disability, more families will be open about their problems (and more will keep their children - a huge number of children ended up in "care", not because they weren't loved and wanted, but because the parents didn't have the physical or emotional support to keep them at home).

I think that you are right - many would have gone undiagnosed etc. But I also think that "modern life" (for want of a better term) with its exposure to chemicals in cleaning products, air pollution, hormones in meat and pesticides in food (and the high-sugar diets we eat - that stuff gets into everything!) has a lot to answer for.

We have probably swapped a better chance of survival for an increased risk of (comparatively) minor conditions.

I apologise, too, for any misunderstanding. It wasn't your post that really annoyed me, it was another, but I should not have been so rude to her either.

Of course the situation was compounded by the most inappropriate autocorrect in the history of the internet (probably). For future reference - two words I would NEVER apply to ANYBODY are "spastic" and "retard". They are vile! If they are ever in my posts please give me the benefit of the doubt and assume a/c sabotage.

I was a speech and language therapist in my previous life and I know the suffering and despair that goes with those cruel labels. (Often used even within families.)

I have proof-read this Smile so I hope nothing untoward has crept through.

hazeyjane · 16/01/2017 22:45

Sweet accepted, happily, Happy Smile

RiverTamFan · 17/01/2017 01:09

My father was born pre WWII and spent most of his childhood with asthma. Still made him play rugby.

I went to school in the 80's/early 90's. I had a best friend with dyslexia, knew a girl with diabetes who spent so much of her first year of school in hospital she had to start again and remember a boy with calipers and crutches from the Special class in junior school. I remember him because we got on, the others have faded from memory. I can think of a few people who were on the ASD spectrum or had ADHD when I was at school and nobody knew. I know for certain they did because DH, DB and I have all been diagnosed as adults. DB knows because of his job, DH because a couple of breakdowns does catch the NHS's attention and I was diagnosed at 39. We were all just a bit eccentric/weird/person everyone avoided and often picked on.

Gwenhwyfar · 17/01/2017 18:19

"I can think of a few people who were on the ASD spectrum or had ADHD when I was at school and nobody knew. I know for certain they did because DH, DB and I have all been diagnosed as adults. "

You can't diagnose other people based on your own diagnosis.

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