To wonder if they've changed the Highway Code and no one told me?

[Chicken4dinner]

Or far more likely when did drivers become so inconsiderate?

I've just tried to cross a fairly busy road at a zebra crossing. I stood with one foot on the crossing making it obvious I was trying to cross and five cars zoomed right past me.

I took one step forward, so I was 2 or 3 ft from the kerb and still no one stopped. When there was a very small break in the traffic I walked forward but was prepared to leap back if I had to. I made it across in one piece.

I'm a driver. I always stop when I see someone crossing on a zebra.

It was quite nerve wracking walking out before the cars had stopped and I'm a mobile forty-something. How elderly or less mobile people cope I don't know.

Adults, dog walkers, wheelchair users and people with prams are perfectly happy to walk into the road to get past your car.

This is my pet hate! I always make sure to stick very close to the side of the offending car, after all I don't want to step too far out into the road, and if I happen to clip the wing mirror as I pass it.... well, accidents happen when you park like a twat.

Parking on double yellow lines is fine, if you leave someone sitting in the passenger seat. Don't worry, you can leave the car there for as long as you want.

Oh and the big one around this area is people still using their mobile phones whilst driving.

I saw a man do a three point turn and reverse out at the same time in a packed car park whilst taking DD to her swimming lesson. Crossing at the bollards (sp?) once and there was a queue of traffic but it was still moving. A lady was sat at the drivers seat texting. Waiting for a taxi home from Tesco one day with the food shop. Car came speeding into the car park. Sunglasses on. One hand on the steering wheel. The other on the mobile phone. If I was a traffic officer I'd have a field day for all the contraventions I witness.

There are some really good drivers out there. I can still remember the young coach driver in my uni days who'd just started and had it hammered drilled into him about being aware of other drivers on the road. A good job too because someone tried to cut him up on the roundabout before you join the A52 . If it wasn't for his quick thinking that could have been a very nasty accident.

I was told this morning that the pretty zigzag lines outside a school indicate the drop off zone.

Unfortunately for the driver the PCSO behind didn't agree.

I think "mobile phones are a useful addition to helping you drive so make sure you use them frequently" has definitely been added.

Plus "on a school run, please make sure you speed past children walking in case they step out, you will be safely past them if they decide to run across to speak to their mate who waved at them from across the road."

Or one I had recently, " if there are cars double parked and cars trying to drive through in both directions, ensure you gesticulate wildly at the car in the middle, whilst calling them a wanker, because you had to reverse back down the road, due to the twatty BMW driver behind middle driver who refused to reverse when middle driver tried to, clearly this was ALL the jiddle drivers fault and they are indeed a wanker" I'm still fuming about that one.

And "when you drive a massive lorry, please feel free in intimidate female drivers, in small cars with young children in, off the road. They are in your way and you are clearly more important so official advice is get as close as possible in your massive truck and flash your lights wildly. You could crush them if need be so don't worry about it. However you have to accept that said driver in small car may well slow right down, forcing you to and she can pick up speed again while you cannot so you may end up going slower again." I couldn't have stood in the gap he left between my car and his massive lorry, he was so close it was scary. If I had touched my brakes even a tiny bit, he wouldn't have even seen my brake lights. He learnt when I slowed right down, forcing him to.

Sorry, I meant to say the man doing the three point turn and reversing out at the same time was on his mobile too.

Drama, yes, I passed my test way back in the 20th century and also missed the update where it's now fine to keep your car door open and chat with a pal who's standing in the road.

Oh, I also missed "pavements outside schools are there for a drivers convenience so you don't have to park further up and walk to the school gates. Children bounce so them having to walk in the road to get past is not a problem."

the one which pretty much every driver seems to ignore is rule 170, giving way to pedestrians crossing a road you are turning into

And indicating doesn't give you priority either. If you indicate, I will stop and wait for you, but if I am already crossing, you stop. If you don't indicate and turn in I will be very very cross.

Then you get the people who turn into side roads you want to cross while out running, but you've let them go and start to run up the road, planning to cross behind them. They crawl and crawl and crwal. Why do they do that? I'm waiting for you to go so I can cross the road. Please turn and go - quickly.

Likewise, if I am waiting behind an obstruction for you, don't dawdle, get past so that I can get on my way.

Dawdling drivers can be as bad as aggressive ones.

Another recent amendment: indicators should only be used on main roads. They are a waste of battery when turning into streets in residential areas, as any pedestrians crossing ahead can read your mind and know where you're going. Do not concern yourself with their convenience.

Also, you no longer have to give way to those on the other side of the road when the obstruction is on your side of the road. You can just drive on their side of the road and, if they have already reached the obstacle, it's their responsibility to reverse, not yours.

I only passed my test last June, I remember when I was a learner one time on a pelican crossing I was at the front, lights on red. The green man went from green to red but red light on traffic lights still on and still a group of people on the crossing. Guy behind me starts honking like a loon, he expected me to drive through the red light AND THE GROUP OF PEDESTRIANS!! Clearly the fact that I didn't made me one of "those" annoying learner drivers that slow you down

Ah, this thread sounds like DH and me sounding off about all the usual culprits - lane hogs, non-indicators, those oblivious to zebra crossings.

My pet gripe (well, one of them) is people who zoom down the outside lane to a local roundabout, indicate right, and then go all the way round so that all they're really doing is turning left. They're just too important to queue up like normal mortals on the inside lane, and the poor sods trying to get on the roundabout from other directions are also completely shafted.

That Rule 170 about pedestrians is one I know, but daren't often use, because at the place where I'd be likeliest to use it, I think it would make things more dangerous rather than less, owing to sight lines, tailgaters and so on.

HarryPotter we experienced similar once. Was on a bus in the bus lane and a lorry at the side of us was literally inches away from the side of the bus.
The bus driver kept beeping, obviously to tell him to back the fuck up he was too close. The lorry driver was genuinely perplexed as to what the problem was. If he'd have inched any closer he'd have been sitting on the bus drivers lap! I just admit that was quite scary as a passenger.

My pet hate just now is arsehole twunts who think nothing of racing along wet, slushy streets, soaking pedestrians because slowing down and thinking of other people is too much.
We've snow here today, its wet and slushy and messy. So do you race along urban streets through huge slushy puddles or do you stop and think oh look, schoolkids, I'd better slow down or that huge lake Im driving through will soak them!
Its illegal to douse pedestrians and you can be fined and have points put on your licence so always get the plate and witnesses! And swear a lot at the retreating motor!

If another car is going too slow for you, such as at or near the speed limit, it is acceptable to drive up close to them and flash them. They need to know that they should drive faster, especially on a single lane road where you can not over take.

Chili, if it helps, my instructor always taught me to watch the feet of pedestrians near a zebra crossing. They tend to be slightly torned towards the crossing before they cross, otherwise they will usually be pointing straight ahead.

Oh, and priority arrows do not apply. You're might think you should give way to that oncoming vehicle, but just carry right on, and tell the driver she's a fucking idiot if she doesn't slam her brakes on.

No entry signs are for indicative purposes only.

If there are no double yellows and it is legal to park at the side of the road, it is compulsory to do so, especially if it saves you 30 seconds in the morning. Do not use your driveway and do not worry about whether your car may constitute a hazard for anyone coming around the corner.

brasty where I am now people are really good about pedestrian crossings as well. It's lovely .

"If you are on an unfamiliar road, and not sure where you are going, do not pull over whilst you get your bearings as this could seriously damage the kerbside flora and fauna. Other drivers will have no problem compensating for you unexpectedly slamming on the brakes, driving 30 mph under the speed limit or executing a last-minute turn when you realise the junction you are level with is the one you are meant to take. If you forget to indicate, don't worry, you can always do so after you've turned off, it doesn't make any difference".

There's a new one that people sometimes pick up on for rural driving: if you're in a 4 x 4 travelling down a single track lane, it's much more convenient for the driver in the small city car to reverse 300m to a verge next to farm gate than for you to pull back 30m to a passing place. Don't worry about who's going uphill. Oh, and keep your lights on full-beam at all times. It's awfully dark out there. Dazzle us all.

Arrows directing the one way system (especially in car-parks) are just pretty pictures on the tarmac.
They mean nothing , let alone you should actually follow their direction

I'm currently having low level arguements with DH about indicating. We live in a semi rural location so there isn't a side road every 50 metres to confuse the issue. He DOES signal but literally one blink before he turns or even as he turns, which I say is far too late.
I think you should signal either as you brake or as you pass the advance road sign for side turning

All of these!
I find the hardest part of being a driver is other drivers!