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To suggest that there IS still an issue with racist police in Britain?

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AngelaKardashian · 12/01/2017 11:23

I have just seen this video of a British police officer openly admitting that he will stop a car full of black men in "gangster clothes" (whatever that means) and it made me think of the various discussions I've had with people both in real life and on online that deny that institutional racism is a 'thing'.

I am so tired of it happening and even more tired of people refusing to acknowledge it. He said himself, most are too "scared to say it", suggesting most are thinking it too.

AIBU to say that this snapshot is only the tip of the iceburg?

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AngelaKardashian · 12/01/2017 16:30

So, typical London street fashion then?
There is a difference between being labelled a "yummy mummy" or "chav" and being labelled a "gangster" too, by the way. The former two are nasty stereotypes that have little impact on your day to day life. The latter suggests that you are a criminal, thus having police officers treat you as such. So, like I said, why aren't white men in suits treated as such?

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ailPartout · 12/01/2017 16:38

So, typical London street fashion then?

No. To me, that is ginger beards, walnut whip hair, skinny jeans and a love of artisanal sour dough and espresso.

So, like I said, why aren't white men in suits treated as such?

Because the image of a gangster wearing a pin stripe, three-piece suit and carrying a tommy gun has moved on recently.

Is 'yummy mummy' a nasty stereotype? I'd be first to admit that chav is derogatory and one mainly applied to white people.

BarbarianMum · 12/01/2017 16:42

Isn't this pretty much the uniform of teenager boys of all races? Pretty sure the white ones don't get pulled over by the police and searched regularly.

AngelaKardashian · 12/01/2017 16:43

You Googled 'London fashion'. I said 'London street fashion'. It's becoming quite clear that you are affiliated with very few people who do dress this way and that when you do come across them, in the streets or wherever, you view them as gangsters. The media has told you that young black boy in hoodie = gun carrying gangster and you are choosing to run with that idea.

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ailPartout · 12/01/2017 16:54

I don't think I've ever spoken to someone wearing that style of dress let alone "affiliated" with them (whatever that means). I don't suspect they have a gun. They choose to identify with a particular image for a reason.

I've no doubt I'm equally judged as a 50-ish woman in a Zara / M&S / Monsoon skirt suit.

Isn't this pretty much the uniform of teenager boys of all races?

Not in my experience. They're more hipster wannabes from what I know.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/01/2017 17:22

They choose the best candidates from the people who apply

And it just so happens that what they see as the "best" are arrogant, ignorant racists

Errr - isn't that a bit of a sweeping statement, for someone who appears to dislike stereotyping?

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 12/01/2017 17:28

And it just so happens that what they see as the "best" are arrogant, ignorant racists.

Wow op so you don't like stereotyping people yet you throw that line around!

BadLad · 12/01/2017 23:03

I have a few black American friends who have moved to east Asia (Japan, South Korea, Singapore) as they won't have the threat of being shot on sight in those countries. They say the uk is not that great, ie. the British are very good at covering up the past and 'moving on' like it was nothing.

LOL at someone moving to Japan and then accusing the UK of covering up the past and moving on like it was nothing. Wonder if they've come across the estate agents with the "allows foreigners" files of properties separate from the larger files of landlords who don't.

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