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To wonder what the point of those extendable leads are?

49 replies

luckylucky24 · 11/01/2017 18:45

Other than maybe if your dog doesn't return on fields I cannot see how they are a good idea? We have had training leads before that were not traditional extendable so no need for that purpose and the number of times dogs have wandered into the bloody road in front of my car is frustrating. Because they are on those stupid leads it takes the owner ages to get control when they should already have control especially on a main road or housing estate at peak times of traffic!

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CrohnicallyPregnant · 11/01/2017 21:01

I've known some very large dogs (Rottweilers, dulux dogs) that have been walked on extendable leads, and never known a lead to snap. The worst I have known to happen is for the retracting mechanism to fail, meaning you have to wind the lead in by hand and lock to finish the walk. I think you need to make sure the lead is appropriate for the dog's size (they do come in different weight ratings, leads for larger dogs are proper webbing not cord) and if you think the dog is likely to pull or jerk at the end of the lead, go up a size.

figure I was in a similar situation when I had a dog, a shared use path but not with a white line. I saw the cyclist coming at speed, called the dog and walked towards it, but the cyclist decided to try to cycle between me and the dog, meaning I had to dive in front of the cyclist to prevent the dog running in front of him. I mean, even if I hadn't had the dog on an extending lead, why would you cycle between a dog and their owner, knowing the owner had shouted the dog to come?

lovelearning · 11/01/2017 21:15

the dog is likely to pull

A retractable lead rewards a dog for pulling

The dog learns that pulling extends the lead

So it actually trains the dog to pull on the lead

Fancyaruck · 11/01/2017 21:19

I find it's impossible to get long enough toddler reigns, so use one of those nice extendable leads. Nice range of colours too!

Mrsmorton · 11/01/2017 21:24

They're a menace. @chronicallypregnant where was the cyclist supposed to go??

dollydaydream114 · 11/01/2017 21:28

Extendable leads are intended for dogs who are hard to recall or prone to chasing things they see in the distance, or puppies who haven't learnt their commands yet - the idea is that you can still give them a bit more freedom to roam and sniff while they're on a walk in open fields, without them doing a disappearing act on you.

They aren't meant to be used in their extending form on pavements or busy places or pathways - for those sorts of walks you're meant to reel in the lead and lock it short like an ordinary lead.

So the leads themselves aren't really the problem; they're quite handy for their intended purpose. The problem is that people don't have a clue what they're for or how to use them properly.

MaynJune · 11/01/2017 21:50

I would never use one near a road.
A little terrier was killed near here. The lead was on the short setting but he lunged at a dog across the road and the lead snapped. It was awful.

WheresMaHairyToe · 11/01/2017 22:04

I'm using one atm with our new dog. We've had him 3 weeks, recall is improving but I don't trust him yet. He walks to heel on command, but I keep it locked to short.on the beach he gets to run a bit more freely. Once the idiot realises he can't catch seagulls and comes back on command, we'll stop using it.

WheresMaHairyToe · 11/01/2017 22:07

@wolfiefan, why shouldn't they be used with a sighthound? Our dog is a lurcher/lab (possibly more) cross, which I have recently learned makes him technically a sighthound. He has a harness?

Figure17a · 11/01/2017 22:18

@chronicallypregnant. When the owner's on the path and the dog's on an extended lead on a wide grass verge, how would the cyclist even see the dog/know the dog was there?

nocoolnamesleft · 11/01/2017 22:41

I was knocked off my feet by one of these. Large bouncy dog ran round me, wrapping my ankles, then ran on, pulling me over. Unfortunately I was standing (on the path) at the top of a very steep slope. Luckily I fell left, not right.

Wolfiefan · 11/01/2017 22:49

@wheresmahairytoe
I was told never to use one with a sighthound due to their fast speeds and strength. (Mine is a giant though!)

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RTKangaMummy · 11/01/2017 23:10

You can get them for different weights of dogs

cheeseandcrackers77 · 11/01/2017 23:20

I use one but it's a thick tape one not a cord. Our dog had good recall till he got spooked by a very large dog who came running at him at full pelt and he ran and we couldn't recall him. He has since lost his recall as if he gets nervous he just won't listen at all. So all walks are on the lead now. Kept short on pavements but at the park he has a bit of freedom but I know he is safe. I am hopeful one day to get his recall back and am working with a trainer to understand his body language so I can identify when he us starting to get nervous.

Scuttlebutter · 11/01/2017 23:26

They are lethal. Further to Wolfie's point, there are sadly plenty of documented cases where sighthounds have broken their necks if their owners have been stupid enough to use them. Most reputable sighthound charities warn new owners about how dangerous they are. Sighthounds are especially at risk because of their phenomenal speed from a standing start and their slim necks, thus concentrating any pressure.

For any dog, I'd gladly see them banned tomorrow. No reputable dog training class allows them.

If you are walking on a street, your dog should be walking to heel by your side on a proper lead, attached securely to a suitable collar or harness. That way, you have control and can ensure the safety of both your dog and other street users. Loose lead walking is a skill and it can be learned, but as other posters have said, you'll never learn it while your dog is on extending lead as it effectively teaches the dog to maintain a slight "pull" at all times and that pulling is rewarded by allowing the dog to go where it likes. For loose lead walking your dog should be at your side, with the lead hanging down under the neck forming a "smile" shape.

Our newest dog arrived a month ago with no lead walking skills and he is now walking nicely on the lead - I walk him and our two others on the lead together singlehandedly. For recall, running around etc. we either use our indoor dog park or we hire a secure field - there is an excellent FB page which lists secure dog fields all over the UK and is very useful when you are working with a new dog.

While you are teaching recall, use a long line. And if you are somewhere dangerous, eg. livestock nearby, I simply prefer to walk my dogs on the lead. That way, we can all have a safe walk without bothering anyone else. We use a 6ft lead routinely, so I can use that for both close heelwork and more relaxed ambling/sniffing.

We have personally experienced numpties who have tripped up other walkers, wrapped their leads round our dogs' legs and caused accidents to cyclists. There are many instances of nasty injuries caused by them when they wrap round legs and even taking off tops of fingers.

If you drop them while your dog is running the noise/weight of the handle part can further frighten the dog, thus making it more likely they'll run.

Whenever we see them being used at our local NT place, popular with "weekend" dog walkers, we give them a wide berth. They are invariably used by people with limited awareness of their surroundings who are quite happy to gas on their mobile while the dog is tripping up innocent pedestrians 30 feet away.

Responsible dog ownership starts with ensuring the safety and wellbeing of your dog, but it must also include an awareness of the impact of dog ownership on other people sharing public spaces. That means having your dog safely under control - something which is much more difficult using one of these contraptions. It takes a bit more effort, but learning loose lead walking and reliable recall are both achievable and will ensure you will never be one of "those" dog owners that so many threads here are started about.

tabulahrasa · 11/01/2017 23:37

I use one because my dog is a dick basically...

He can't be trusted near other dogs, which means he can only be off lead somewhere secure.

It's appropriate for his size and I swap him on to it where I'd let a non dick dog offlead.

KoalaDownUnder · 11/01/2017 23:54

Brilliant summary by ScuttleButter.

I hate these things.

previously1474907171 · 11/01/2017 23:57

I don't have a dog, unfortunately (dog envy) but would think that they are useful in situations where your dog could be stolen if it ran off, I have seen too many reports where a dog has run off out of sight and vanished.

Nameforsaken · 11/01/2017 23:59

scuttle Inused one with my sighthound puppy and he did exactly that. Bolted full pelt, he didn't half yelp! Never used one since.
Btw, I'm not stupid, I was just ill informed. He's 9 now and I've been very good to him since

10Betty10 · 12/01/2017 00:06

I have a small dog that when off lead tries to go down rabbit/badger/general animal holes. To stop her being mauled by said animals living in holes, I use the extension lead. She still gets to have a nice time on her walks then.

TheDropBear · 12/01/2017 00:08

Saw on a 24 hours in A&E type show where a idiot man had wrapped the cord part around his fingers and got them nearly ripped off

Abraiid2 · 12/01/2017 00:09

Whenever we see them being used at our local NT place, popular with "weekend" dog walkers, we give them a wide berth. They are invariably used by people with limited awareness of their surroundings who are quite happy to gas on their mobile while the dog is tripping up innocent pedestrians 30 feet away.

I use one. I walk my dogs every day, always in the countryside and sometimes in NT land. I am very aware of other dogs and rein my own small dog in when other larger dogs approach and upset her. Then let her extend the lead to sniff when they have bounced off without being worried she will go after rabbits. We don't get in anyone's way. You sound somewhat obsessively biased.

TrustySnail · 12/01/2017 00:10

Scuttlebutter

I do see some of your points, but I think banning extendables totally would be wrong.

With regard to sighthounds, yes, it's well-documented that they're an absolute no-no - my understanding is that you need specialist collars, harnesses and leads for these dogs.

For training/heel walking - we used a 'normal lead' until our dog had graduated from his puppy classes and could walk to heel correctly. His behaviour didn't change when we switched to an extendable. I was advised by my breeder that extendables should only be used for adult dogs.

You mention 'numpties' - but, a numpty in charge of a dog is a numpty whatever kind of lead they use, and as I mentioned in a previous post, I think the damage numpties can do with an off-lead dog is at least equal, if not greater, than a dog on an extendable lead.

It's a gross generalisation to suggest extendables are the preserve of people who gas on their mobiles all day. This certainly isn't something I've observed. Speaking personally, DH and I are very much landline users!

I remain of the view that, like most dog-related issues, it's down to the owner's sense of responsibility, and a case of irresponsible owners getting others a bad name.

However, I do think there's a strong case for better education about safe use of extendables - and warnings when they're sold that are significantly more prominent than the current small-print on the packaging.

CrohnicallyPregnant · 12/01/2017 01:42

To clarify for those who asked-
Cyclist was approaching from the front right (from my POV) at a fairly high speed. I was walking on the left half of the path. Dog was on the left edge of the path but a few feet in front. Grass was not that long, not even to dog's tummy. I called dog to heel.

Cyclist then veered across the path from my right to my left, so ignoring the fact that first there was more space to pass on my right, second I was clearly shouting someone or something to come to me and thirdly I would have expected the bike to stick to their left as they would on a road. I also think if the cyclist was going too fast to see the dog they were cycling too fast for a shared use path.

So to answer the questions, dog should have been visible (black and white dog on the edge of a short grass verge) and the cyclist should have passed on my other side, the side they were originally on.

I can draw a diagram if it helps?

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