To ask how your dc was after the mmr?

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I am pro-vax but something about the mmr worries me. I know statistically you are more likely to get ill from one of the diseases it protects against but that's not much comfort if you take your perfectly healthy child in for a vaccination and they end up being very unwell or permanently injured.

It's not helped by that fact that an acquaintance is so certain it caused brain damage and subsequently autism in her child. I know they say there's no link but I honestly doubt they'd ever admit there was as the result could be catastrophic in terms of no one having their child vaccinated. She says that it was an instant transformation from a happy sociable child who had some words to one who screamed, cried all the time, lost all the words and understanding they had etc. I understand that often people correlate the two events because autism can start to show at around the same age the mmr is given but often parents state there were signs even before the vaccine is given.

Anyway consulting dr google is no help. I only get horror stories. I'm hoping for a more balanced response on here! I will get dd vaccinated but I'm very worried about it. She's due it now and I need to book her in. She's just turned 12 months.

My first DS had signs of autism before he had any vaccinations. He was fine with the MMR.

My second DS was teething at the time and his nappies were a bit smellier than normal, but he was also fine.

I had no hesitation whatsoever in giving DS2 the MMR despite a strong family history of autism (I'm also on the spectrum), because vaccinations don't cause autism.

Absolutely fine. Raised temp that was it.

The links to autism have been disproved and the doctor who said it struck off and no longer is allowed to practice medicine as a result of what he said about the MMR

Yes I was considering giving the booster vaccines and measles vaccine on its own then the mmr at about three years old when she starts nursery.

The 'research' has since proven to be wrong.

The doctor was proved wrong

Actually, that's not technically correct. He wasn't proved wrong, there was just no proven link to Autism found, which is slightly different. I don't think anyone ever ran similar tests under "proper" conditions to check. His research was thrown out on a technicality on procedure, I think, and there was found to be a conflict of interests on funding.

my mum has 5 dc including me. We all got mmr. She said there was an overnight change in my db when he got his regarding his behaviour and abilities. Rest of us were fine. Db is imo undiagnosed autistic (autism wasnt really something he could have be diagnosed with as it wasnt really recognised back then). Dm genuinely believes mmr played a part. Cue 15 years later, ds1 didnt get mmr due to fears surrounding autism (this was when jenny mcarthy really brought it to the forefront and was at its peak when ds1 was due). Ds1 is not autistic. 10 years later ds2 got mmr when due. He is later diagnosed with autism. Im on the fence. Couldnt say mmr causes some variances of autism, but definitely couldnt say it doesn't neither.

My DD had it and had no reaction at all. My DH turned up late to the appointment and didn't realise she'd already been in as she was so bubbly and cheerful! No effects later on either...

No reaction here.

Only jab they've reacted to (so far) is the preschool DPT booster, which made 2 of them grotty for about 48 hours, but no lasting effects (other than, one hopes, the intended immunity)

Dc1 was fine, a bit under the weather for few days but nothing drastic. Dc2 had a very high temperature and was miserable, screaming inconsolably on and off for several days. No long term problems so far as I can tell.

My DD had a slight temperature and was a bit grumpy for a couple of days but was otherwise fine. I have autism in my family (sibling with ASD) so I had slight concerns about giving DD the jab, but I recognised that these fears were completely irrational. There is no mechanism by which the MMR jab could cause ASD.

A week or two after the booster, dd's auto-immune system went haywire and she developed a serious illness, complications of which landed her in GOSH. She continued there as an outpatient until earlier this year, when she turned 18.
Of course, we'll never know if MMR had anything to do with this, and we certainly would never get any medic to admit it. I've read of links on-line however.
Would I give it to mine again, if I were to turn the clock back. I just don't know. Probably. Ds was fine.

didnt seem to have any particular reaction to any of the baby injections, MMR, Men C, ,BCG.
However my DD went for her MMR booster and did not stop vomiting for hours. IN the end she was retching up bile. It was scary. Then her throat was burnt with the bile and she couldnt eat. son did not get his.

All my 4 children had MMR, even the egg allergic child, who was in more danger from the nurse who offered him a bit of chocolate after jabbing him. As he was allergic to nuts I wasnt impressed.

oddly enough, the 3 that had the slight raised temp and being a little grumpy were not the ones with the allergies.

My nieces are reliant on others being vaccinated, they have a rare syndrome, they have severe seizures if they get a raised temperature or moderate illness. For this reason they are admitted in to hospital for the vaccines, and each one may be delayed when ill. So getting them vaccinated is a difficult process. However if they caught measles etc, they may survive but with brain damage. They have already got brain damage from previous childhood illnesses. They dont naturally stop with the seizures so are put in enforced comas to save them.
Ironically this condition is mistaken for vaccine damage, because of the raise in temp children get after vaccinations, esp if baby was healthy and never had a high temp before.

My GP gave the MMR as separate injections 2 weeks apart just in case people had any concerns. DS1 had a mild case of measles after that vaccine.

I have no experience of this first hand but I do have a friend, (an older woman) whose GS had measles as an infant and straight after went on to develop autism. I do wonder if the illness itself can cause autism? Sorry if this reply is unhelpful....I have often pondered this. Is MMR a live vaccine?

My dd was very ill afterwards and was hospitalised. She now has some learning difficulties that for a while they thought was ASD.

If i could go back i would have single jabs

When I was a bit uncertain before DS1 had the MMR the thing that convinced me was an account by a nurse who was about to immunise a little boy when another member of staff knocked on the door. While she was speaking to this person the little boy began having a massive seizure and went on to develop some kind of serious health condition (can't remember the details now) If she hadn't been interrupted she would have just immunised him and the mother would have been convinced that the child had reacted to the immunisation. You have to remember that hundreds of thousands of children are immunised each year. Some children develop late onset autism or other health conditions around the age that imms are given. Some of these children will develop the conditions within weeks, days or even hours of being immunised, this does not mean the immunisation caused the condition. Correlation does not equal causation.

Single vaccinations are much more profitable for the pharmaceutical companies. Just putting that out there.

No change in my DS after immunisations, nor should there be as VACCINES DO NOT CAUSE AUTISM. I understand your worries though, it's natural for us parents to worry about our choices. Look at some scientific evidence rather than horror stories on the internet and make an informed choice.

My children were fine, just high temp. But I'm listening to Andrew Wakefield right now on the Richie Allen show, and I think I'm with spots and stars I'm afraid.

DS had his just under a month ago. He had a high temp that day and then 7 days later had a few days of v high temp (had to go to out of hours) followed by bad diarreah

Sorry sent too soon. He doesn't seem to have any long lasting effects though and is fine now. I'd do it again but I can understand your concern - I'm very pro-vax but still had a severalmoments of doubt when he was poorly after it.

My 25 year old son is severely disabled. He has CP, and fitted at birth. I was advised that it was still better to have vaxs than not. I agreed. He is also autistic, first signs appearing after the MMR. I know that the MMR did not cause it because there has been no evidence to support it. Wakefield is discredited on a whole number of areas, and know makes a fortune punting snake oil theories.

People who don't immunise here take advantage of those who do (not those kids who can't be vaccinated). In the Third World folk queue for hours and days to get their kids protected, they know what the consequences can be.

As an aside over the years I have met many kids with CP, caused by brain damage obviously. None were vax damaged (though it happens) . A few had had measles (as tiny babies), and it had travelled to their brain.

In fact my DS was fine after all vax. My 19 yr old DD was always miserable, and was fairly unhappy with a high temp after MMR. It lasted a few days actually but fine subsequently.

No problems with either child from the MMR, not even a temperature. DS2 may have ASD but this is not vaccine related - the signs (in retrospect) were evident from birth. As PPs have said, a correlation doesn't mean causation.

BTW, the autism "epidemic" is nothing to do with vaccination, simply to do with a huge relaxation of the diagnostic criteria so that much more mildly affected children now qualify (which is helpful for them - if there were any NHS public services left - as they would get extra assistance). DS2 is not your rocking, closed in, screaming in a corner stereotype but actually incredibly cute and easy-going, just doesn't "do" social communication.

I do wonder however, in an entirely non-scientific way, if there could be a causation pathway linked with illness/temperature but in that case I would have thought the risk of not being vaccinated (and having the proper illness) is much worse.

My dd was fine other than a raised temperature. I almost didn't go through with it because of the autism link (she was born '99), however I am so glad I did.