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To be so bloody confused? (Cheating)

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twatbadgingcuntfuckerymark2 · 09/01/2017 14:52

Posting here for traffic and I want to hear opinions on this very confusing situ. It may be mental health/PTSD related.

Ex cheated (found out NY day)

Since then we have talked a number of times for several hours. I'll admit I am no longer angry at him my gut is telling me not to be. but I'm confused as fuck. Cause his actions do not fit typical cheating been there done that and saw my step dad do it.

Throughout the last 9mths he had an affair. The other woman who is essentially me with 1 DC the same age/sex as mine. Friend said we look alike. Similar likes too. This might be important.

When I found out about the affair ex was clearly - and I'm not making excuses for him - convinced we had separated to the point of going round in circles repeating the same line over and over again and believing it even with the evidence I provided. Almost delusional. He wasn't lying in the sense he honestly believed the truth he'd created. This went on for several hours and he then broke into a heap and shut down for 3days. (His friends confirm this)

He has admitted to having big chunks of perfect clarity and complete blurs of time over the last year and can't remember things with me that did happen even with photographic prooof but recalls others with perfect pinpoint accuracy inc what I wore where we went etc. He doesn't remember when we bought something specific even though HE shared this on social media.

He continued to do the usual things a partner would do. Sex wasn't weird or distant contact was daily and huge (4K messages back and forth from Nov-Dec for e.g.) nothing in those messages or phone calls. We made and worked through big plans - me moving house, marriage - he's talked to me about this post revelations and he sincerely didn't know I was moving. Thought I was joking about the marriage even though I said where I'd like to go! That's just one example. He's confused. I've known him years and these last 12 myths he has been depressed but loving and caring. His wife(not together at all) agrees and she too pulled back because he was living In the past. This may have triggered something because his wife is an unresolved trauma.

He make up some huge, absolutely convincing lies. The other woman confirmed these were lies and he'd lied to her too.

Still, we've talked me and the ex. I've asked to send his stuff back. He's asked me to wait. I asked why and if he wants it posted later or to collect it. He didn't respond. Properly clammed up.

I've asked for my keys back since Nov. Unrelated reasons. He still hasn't done it and can't answer me why he's keeping hold of them. He can't answer when he 'fell out of love' I don't fully believe he did from phone calls, visits etc. We have a connection still that's not normal. We laughed and joked and cried during a recent post affair convo.

The other woman is out of the picture now.

He's created 3 separate lives with 3 women and 3 separate groups of friends that have recently started to overlap and of course I was the one to force all 3 worlds together rather abruptly.

He has been living them all as though each was/is real and kept them separate but didn't hide them well at all. So easy to find!

Now, there is more I can't and won't go into specifics about and it's not as black and white as my previous posts. Am I mad and over thinking this and he's some love rat slimeball or is this serious mental health related stuff?

I can confirm there has been 3 major periods of trauma surrounding deaths, loss and Undealt with grief and known PTSD from major trauma 2. Major trauma 3 also coincided with big anniversary of trauma 2 and the case into trauma 1 was reopened months before the affair began and around same time wife pulled back and pushed for divorce to hurry up plus a redundancy that wasn't done properly/fairly. Again confirmed by others close to him and himself. All these have rolled around not actually being dealt with.

Our 'break up' wasn't exactly typical either. Yes I ranted, screamed at him (not helpful if PTSD I'll admit) but he kept telling me 'you don't want me. You're amazing, you don't deserve me'. He never cut the cord and Never did meeting the other woman and believe me our situ would be easy to do the whole block, run hide thing but he didn't. It was a mission to meet and spend weekends together and he still put that effort in. Not by a long shot and there were house moves and job changes he told me about!?

I don't need anyone to tell me not to get back with him it's my choice either way. I love him and still care deeply and those feelings are not going away any time soon not until I know he's a) OK and B) not a suicide risk C) in therapy. I just want honest opinions on this situ and am I right to be so bloody confused now I've dug into it much much more in my search for answers. does this look like one majorly screwed up man in need of support and understanding or just a firm kick to the bollocks? I want to do both.

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Rixera · 10/01/2017 18:48

He's too messed up for anyone?
Well maybe right now... Or maybe for you?
I take umbrage at that statement and some of PPs. I have DID and I'm not too much for my OH, he's built up friendships with all of my parts and appreciates the ways they have helped us all as a group to survive. Plenty of people with DID have loving partners. I sorted out where all the feelings were stemming from and am doing trauma work, going through the process now of working on everything repressed, the feelings and how to manage them, all that stuff.
If he does this, there's no reason he can't break through the amnesia, integrate his memories, and be a whole and loving partner with plenty to offer.

However your DC is saying worrying extreme things. Is this really all about the DP?

And yes, he needs to work his butt off. He needs to get help and do it the right way instead of suppressing the feelings. But his feelings for the OW do not negate his feelings for you, they are separate, fulfilling different needs for different 'parts', who in turn are needed to fulfil their own role of allowing him to survive. It has worked, he is here after all.

I by no means think you should work through it, no one has to, i just mean to provide a different point of view to the he's a cheater/will never get better/ LTB side.

twatbadgingcuntfuckerymark2 · 11/01/2017 10:17

He is still married but 3yrs separated from his wife. It's safe to say they are not together. The wife ( I'm using the word wife for clarity) confirmed this and whilst me and ex were together at the start it was just me. I knew a long term partner existed just not the 'long term and married' bit.

Please be aware I am leaving a lot of detail out because it's too specific and would identify all parties involved. So you only have outlines.

We - me and the ex as in right now we are not together but he needs help - have spoken some more. I need answers as much as he does.

His timeline of events is messed up. Completely messed up. There are days missing.

It's not a simple leg over. Our situ doesn't facilitate that so easily iyswim. If he wanted a series of fuck buddies there were much much easier ways to do it.

He lied. I'm keeping that right up at the top of my mind. That he lied.

He has confessed he has felt Emotionally numb for a while. He's not sure when it began but he (and I do but haven't told him I'm not feeding him reasons and excuses) thinks it began around the time of some big stressors - job loss. Selling the marital home, one friend ending up severely disabled and another friend suddenly dying. These happened within a 6mth period. This is on top of the traumas listed above which were never resolved including milestone anniversaries of them.

This would explain the hot/cold and panicked emotions he's confessed to feeling around that time and why he behaved a certain way with me. The wife also noticed this behaviour change with her and she pulled back for her own reasons so he's not just doing this to me but it's across all people.

He's admitted he has unresolved issues with his wife. He's not in love with her. That is clear but it relates to traumas 2 and 3.

Yes, you're right he's too messed up for anyone right now rixera but underneath this shit he really is a decent caring and loving bloke with an awful lot to give - hence the wife being completely in shock about all of this too. Thier split was amicable given thier circumstances. And I think you are right and this isn't me attacking the other woman. Not at all she is a victim too but p he had the emotional/intellectual and physical connection with me to start but distance stunted the physical side with the job loss and major money issues. And she was there and available. A ready made family and didn't question why he was talking to me daily or visiting me!

It's almost as if he was screaming out to be caught. He made it easy to find For confrontation or even just to feel something? A cry for help? Self fulfilling prophecy? Proof he's a failure? Or just a really stupid cunt? I don't know. I doubt I ever will.

This is why I'm veering on PTSD with other issues and why I've told ex and sent him details of trauma therapists who can deal with complex things like this.

I get it. It's a mess. But I care an awful lot about him and I'd feel fucking awful to let him destroy himself or someone else but I am acutely aware of my own needs and mental health and that of DC too. I'm putting me and DC first be assured of that and I don't want to discuss DCs specific underlying health needs. I'm strong, I have support and I don't need to feel needed in fact I hate it. This is pure and simple me loving and caring for a man I believe to be having a mental health crisis.

The FB thing. He only shared me and him online publicly. Pics tagging etc etc. the secret accounts were open, visible but didn't even have any posts. He used the same username!!?? For them. Even the stupidest of cheats knows not to do that. Which makes this all the more bizarre.

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twatbadgingcuntfuckerymark2 · 11/01/2017 10:18

That should be ' I knew a long term ex partner existed' they were separated almost 2yrs at the point we got together.

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