A&E for this or not ?

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Ds (4) woke up with this swollen looking collarbone this morning no pain still using arms etc is it worth getting it xrayed?

They said gps very busy today and will phone back by 12 and if not I've to call them , will update once I know what's happening thanks all

I do have to say to the people who are saying you shouldn't just go to a&e because you need an x-ray... For OP and those of us with hypermobilty/EDS (ehlers danlos syndrome ) it's often the case that our consultants have told us we have to. Simply because if we went for an x-ray at minor injuries we would most likely end up at a&e anyway because often they want specialist doctors (not found at minor injuries) to relocate hypermobile joints.

Patient is now furious they didn't get their x-ray.

Bloody hell, does this happen? Who gets grumpy about not having an x-ray?? Yup, I completely agree with you then. I do a semi-contact sport so a lot of my team mates over the years have headed off to A&E "for an x-ray" (no minor injuries unit). Then again I think there's a good level of knowledge sports where this is fairly commonplace as to whether or not something's broken before anyone heads off to the hospital.

Sorry to derail.

Some minor injuries units can do x rays. Check first.

*knowledge IN sports where this is fairly commonplace

Epoxy it definitely happens - I've seen more than one person complaining on Facebook about the fact that they sat in A&E for hours with a sore toe and didn't even get an X-ray! Makes me very pleased actually as it's very poor practice to take toe X-rays 👍

If it were my DD, I would ring 111 and talk it through with them to see what they think whilst you're waiting, for reassurance and advice.

i wouldn't wait on GP calling back by lunchtime, I would want my child seen today with a lump like that so would go to A&E rather than get messed about. A&E units are generally quieter during the day than out of hours.

we were in the A&E unit where I live and for something just before Christmas and there was no other patients there when I went in and no one waiting when I came out so no they aren't all over run with patients no matter what the press would have you believe.

Agree with Navy on the waiting times and if the GP wants you to go for an X-ray they'll give you a covering letter or let the hospital know you are on your way which will cut down the time you are waiting. Op hope little man is ok

Justme- i'm not saying you shouldn't go to a&e. I'm saying that you shouldn't go specifically for an x-ray. You go for treatment- if an xray is necessary then fine. I'm sure when you've dislocated you don't go "for an xray", you go for the specialist that will relocate yoir joint, give you appropriate pain relief, refer you for follow up if necessary, and yes, probably the xray to check the joint is back in position.

But many people do go because they have made the decision they need an x-ray, and get pissed off when it isn't part of their treatment.

Same logic when people go to the gp for antibiotics for their cold. When they don't get the ab's or x-ray they then feel cheated or that their visit has wasted their time, or that they haven't been taken seriously.

When I worked in a&e i always wanted to say to those who told me "i've come for an xray" that of course they could have one. Then give them their film and say there's your xray.

Chances are they wouldn't be happy with that either.

Ah ok sorry misunderstood! Sleep deprived doesn't cover it here !

Echoing JustMe as another person with EDS - if a hypermobile person has a joint that can't be relocated by itself then A&E is necessary, regardless of pain or not. GPs and the staff in MIUs (in my area they don't have doctors, just nurse practitioners) don't have the right knowledge about these conditions (I've lost count of the amount of times I've explained EDS to nurses in MIU who've "never heard of it") and it's better to go to A&E where a rheum or orthopod can be bleeped for specialist advice.

Hope the GP gets back to you OP!

NavyandWhite having visited several times over the last year they aren't notoriously long where I live I can assure you.

I went in and no one waiting when I came out so no they aren't all over run with patients no matter what the press would have you believe

And I work in a hospital and I can tell you they are. The one time you went in and they happened to be quiet is not representative of how a&e usually is. They've been incredibly busy these last couple of weeks. But like everywhere they also have their quiet periods.

I went in and no one waiting when I came out so no they aren't all over run with patients no matter what the press would have you believe

"No one waiting" isn't indicative of how busy a&e is either. We used to get people walk into an empty main waiting room, and then complain about waiting when we "weren't busy"

Except we'd have on patient brought into resus, tying up dr's and nurses. Many people in the queue for x-ray, so not in department but still needing review and treatment post xray. Trolleys full, but the wait there significant because of resus. Patients on observation in the corridor or secondary waiting rooms. Childrens waiting area packed.

But, no, obviously not busy.

Gp called back just there and said A&E as Itll most likely need xrayed

Good luck. Hope ds is better soon.

Let us know how ds gets on. Hope you don't have to long wait.

The poor thing! Good luck at A&E, hope it gets sorted quickly.

Gosh, I hope he's ok, that's very strange looking!

Hope it's nothing to worry about