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Vendors have left tons of rubbish and possessions....

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Bearberry · 07/01/2017 22:02

I've posted on property too but thought maybe I could get some opinions here as well.... Apologies for such a long post but some background seems necessary as to not drip feed. Our vendors have been seriously hardwork through out the entire process. We live in a small town where everyone knows everyone at least indirectly. They chose a online estate agency who were stringing along the process of us putting in an offer so we ended up contacting the vendor directly. Turned out the agency were lying to the vendor too and they decided to cut them out. So from that stage of offer being accepted we have had no agent.

They are purchasing a vacant flat which is part of an estate, and is literally round the corner from the house we have brought from them.

Due to several delays with the top of the chain we eventually insisted they break the chain or we would pull out. We had been ready to exchange for 4 months by now and it was delay after delay with their purchase which we know via our solicitor on many occasions they were downplaying or outright lying about.

They finally broke chain and we exchanged before Christmas (22/12) with completion date for 6/1. We arranged to collect the keys at 1pm (a time they suggested). I understood that they were initially looking to move into their new purchase early and 'rent' it from their vendor until that purchase was completed. Therefore we assumed as they wouldn't be waiting on their keys that day it should be quite a smooth process.

However they didn't leave until 3 pm and have left 4 van loads of possessions and rubbish in the house and garden. The house was also completely filthy (think uncleaned loo, food in the sink...)

We have spent hours cleaning and packing the remainder of their stuff before we could start to move our own. Fortunately we are moving from a rented place so have the whole weekend. After several requests to come and pick up stuff first thing this morning, only one of the vendors arrived around midday. He is unwell and was unable physically to move items. So we loaded his van for him on 3 occasions and then moved last van load onto street in front of house to allow space for our items. When he returned we offered to load van again for him but he angrily announced he was taking no more of the furniture and we would need to dispose of it. Needless to say none of these items were on the fixtures listing to remain.

So now we have a van loads worth of rubbish and furniture outside of the house to dispose of...

We have now changed the keys as we don't trust the vendors at all and feel they may well have a spare set.

Now here's the point I guess... they've left a motor bike in our shed at the back of the garden. I fully expect they will want to come and pick it up as they've mentioned it several times. We gave them ample opportunity today but they didn't take it on any of the trips back. We feel like if they're willing to blatantly leave all of their old crap and point blank refuse to collect it then they can leave the motor bike too? We can't really stand off with them over the rubbish as it's literally in the street and we will need to move it. However I don't see why they should have the bike!

Am I being petty and angry? Is it worth the fued (they have moved very nearby and it's a small town - not that it seems to deter them from screwing us Hmm )? Any ideas on the legal standpoint?

Also they informed us today that they have moved into their new flat but not informed their vendor and they are not due to complete for another week. So they are basically squatting. I know they got the keys from the estate agents in order to have plumber in so I can only imagine they either intentionally left place unlocked so they could have access or they have had keys cut. Wondering whether we should do something with that information?!

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Bearberry · 10/01/2017 18:38

Well, I have an update!

We've been struck down with a cold so didn't get onto the solicitors until today. Our solicitor agreed it was totally unreasonable and emailed a letter to the vendor solicitor basically advising them to come and collect their stuff or we would be hiring a company to dispose of it and billing them.

Their adult son then appeared at the door whilst I was alone with dd (8months) asleep upstairs. He said he "didn't understand what the problem was with all this stuff" gesturing to the junk in the road they refused to take... but demanded that I let him in to remove a light fitting that they had left in error and that wasn't on the fixture and fitting form!!! I told him no, and to contact via solicitor only now. He told me I was an awful, vile person! I promptly closed door in face.

Half an hour later as DH is returning from shops "ill" (apparently he has some kind of serious lung disease) vendor appears with van and starts banging on door and repeatedly ringing bell. He then loads all remaining items on street into van whilst screaming and swearing and threatening at my returning DH. Vendor and grown kids then spend 30 mins banging on door and ringing bell repeatedly (intentionally driving our dog mad). We rang police pretty early on in process!

Police arrived after they left, unsurprisingly they are familiar with the vendors and are now going to escort them to collect the motorbike and light fitting Hmm from front of house tomorrow morning.

Absolute.fucking.nightmare.

Turns out the neighbours are all lovely and totally understanding though and again unsurprisingly say the vendors are pretty interesting pair!

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Bearberry · 10/01/2017 18:38

Just to clarify until we got on to our solicitor this morning we had heard now more from them about the rubbish or the possessions since their refusal to remove on Saturday....

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lozzylizzy · 10/01/2017 19:05

When I bought my new house I caught a friend of the vendors with a spare key coming to collect a left behind sunbed. I also discovered afterwards that he must've come to collect the washing machine whilst no one was there. Must have been watching and waiting.

fourquenelles · 11/01/2017 16:22

I am in the middle of buying at the moment and my surveyor mentioned that there was building rubbish in the loft. I asked, via my solicitor, that it was removed before completion. The vendors' solicitor came back to check that I really wanted the doors, floorboards and plasterboard up there moved out. Erm? That would be a YES.

The house I am in now was owned by a boot sale hoarder and we had 3 flat bed truck loads of rubbish to clear from the garden, garage and loft. It took me 18 years to de-Stan the house (his real name as he is long dead bless him). I did make £250 though from the sale of a WW1 flying helmet I found in the loft!

fourquenelles · 11/01/2017 16:23

To clarify the doors, floorboards and plaster board are all surplus to requirments. Grin

BrondeBombshell · 11/01/2017 16:27

You have all of my sympathy.

My vendor was asked to clear the shed. Not an unreasonable request. I checked behind the shed and there it all was.

fourquenelles · 11/01/2017 16:30

Some people are buggers Bronde

lurkinghusband · 11/01/2017 16:33

IANAL but vaguely recall that there is a concept of an "involuntary bailee" which is when a party is obliged to accept responsibility for another parties property without agreeing. I'm sure they are allowed to charge a reasonable fee to cover that obligation (which would need to be repaid before the goods are released).

It's related to when people leave items for repair, and never collect them.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 11/01/2017 16:39

Speak to your solicitor. They will have surely listed as vacant possession and provided an inventory of things they are leaving. Everything else needs to be removed at their expense.

Our vendors left loads of crap, we sent them the bill for the skip. In theory if they don't pay then it can go to small claims, although I think we'll just write it off, but your solicitor should be able to advise.

Formerpigwrestler9 · 11/01/2017 17:45

When I bought my new house I caught a friend of the vendors with a spare key coming to collect a left behind sunbed. I also discovered afterwards that he must've come to collect the washing machine whilst no one was there

I'm astounded that someone would take the risk of letting themselves into another persons house like that Shock
it could end very badly with the intruder being attacked and injured by a large angry homeowner

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