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To be plagued about not giving this woman a job

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user1483474832 · 03/01/2017 20:22

She came to us to be interviewed for a job. She had reasonable details in her answers but was very nervous and her answers were quite weak. No examples of competence. The other interviewer was very rude, looking bored and uninterested and checking her phone throughout. This clearly made the woman nervous but she did soldier on. I actually liked her and was considering giving her a job. I felt the interview went badly but I could see she was just nervous.

Anyway, the decision came that there were stronger candidates. You could tell she was upset on the phone but she thanked me for interviewing her. I felt particularly bad afterwards and it never really left me as she seemed a very genuine person.

A year later she got a job on an adjourning team. To cut a long story short she is probably the best worker I have ever met. She is extrovert, confident, assertive but kind and honest. She is a pleasure to be around. She is just about the perfect employee and her boss always talks about how it's a pleasure to work with her and how he will never know how we did not select her and gave the position to the dishonest employee who lasted a matter of weeks before his bullshitting ways were found out. It honestly haunts me because after speaking to her I found out she was nervous as the position was her absolute dream job and she was so desperate to get out of unemployment she had considered suicide.

She had been unemployed a year and just couldn't even get a job interview so when she got one she was almost paralysed with nerves.

But we never helped her, tried to encourage answers or give clues. We just let her give poor answers. I realise now just how rubbish interviews are for choosing candidates and we now have an entire assessment day with written and group exercises.

I see her a lot now in my day to day life and for no reason that I can logically understand, it plagues me that on that day, I chose not to employ her. I never feel like this about other rejected candidates. I don't really understand it. AIBU?

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FatalKittehCharms · 03/01/2017 21:12

Op, I do think you may need some additional training on recruiting/management.

I was recently interviewed by two people and they did help and encourage me, they were unfailingly polite and interested in all my answers.

I'm not sure why you allowed your colleague to be 'very rude' without trying to step in and encouraging this woman to answer the questions.

You have been flagellating yourself about this for two years, which seems very strange to me.

This thread reminds me of that thread where a manager didn't like a colleague, and was shocked when the colleague stood up for her.

VeryBitchyRestingFace · 03/01/2017 21:14

This thread reminds me of that thread where a manager didn't like a colleague, and was shocked when the colleague stood up for her.

OP returned to that thread 3 months hence. They're getting married.

user1483474832 · 03/01/2017 21:23

Thanks everyone. I guess I just remember myself when I had my first job rejection. It hurt... a lot! And to have someone feel the same because of me is hard.

It's guilt mainly I think I feel and embarrassment that I got it so wrong. I will chat to her casually and just say I realise what a good job she does and let her know if a position becomes available I would be very happy to see her in my team.

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mamma12 · 03/01/2017 21:42

You sound really thoughtful. It's a shame more people in the work place aren't like you. I agree interviews are a terrible way of determining who is going to be great at a job as opposed to great at blowing their own trumpet. You haven't done anything wrong and I think you should actually be a bit kinder to yourself because you are clearly a really nice person. I won't say put it behind you because I know sometimes things just affect us and we don't know why. Just carry on being kind.

Believeitornot · 03/01/2017 21:45

Was your other interview colleague like this from the off?
No bloody wonder she was nervous!

Also it goes to show why selection criteria need to be more than interviews for certain jobs.

FireSquirrel · 03/01/2017 21:47

Just wanted to say you sound really lovely. Don't be too hard on yourself.

GlitterNails · 03/01/2017 22:42

It happens. I recently interviewed people for a job. One girl was very outgoing, confident, had lots of answers and "I'll do this" and "I'll do that" answers.

Another candidate was very quiet, her answers a bit more limited, but she had prepared a list of ideas and was very well prepared for the interview.

I took on the first person, as she had a lot of relevant experience. She was awful. She paid her for a month, and have zero to show for it. She was scatty, and basically lied.

I went back to the other person, and she's been brilliant. Reliable, has done everything I've asked without having to ask her about it again. She communicates excellently, and has gone above and beyond multiple times.

I am a quiet introvert as well. She would have been me in the interview, yet I went for the flashy person with all the ideas who turned out to be all talk, and I really regret it. Luckily it worked out well, but I still feel bad as I should have known better.

But these things happen. Interviews are actually one of the worst ways to get to know someone, and to get the best out of them. People can outright lie, or be too nervous to answer the way they should have done. Don't feel bad, you've learnt from the situation.

blueshoes · 03/01/2017 23:40

Interviews are so hit and miss. You can gauge a person's experience and skill level (by asking technical questions) - this they cannot lie too far because I do ask follow up questions and gently probe.

However, it is so difficult to gauge what their true work personalities are like. It is easy to put on a mask for an hour. The cleverer ones tell you what you want to hear.

I have interviewed someone who ended up being perfect for the job in terms of knowledge and ability to do the job but was disruptive to the team. She completely aced the interview with me and a colleague.

I would love to hire a diamond in the rough but question whether my interview technique would be able to bring out such a person. I work for a US-based firm and my US colleagues are rather more unforgiving with candidates who do not project themselves well.

paddlenorapaddle · 04/01/2017 07:43

Are you self identifying with her ? What is it in particular that makes you keep thinking about this i.e. Which emotion

The thing is this is long gone, so you've got to work out how to get over it, perhaps you were meant to be friends or do you feel you need to explain yourself to her

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