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Should I have another go at losing weight before seeing the gastric clinic?

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TheFrenchLieutenantsMonkey · 03/01/2017 03:38

I have sleep apnoea. Entirely down to my weight I'm told (not arguing). Because of this and the sleep apnoea I have been referred to a specialist weight loss clinic which will, hopefully, address my inability to keep weight loss off. I can diet. I just can't keep it up long term. I have problems around eating. I have never been diagnosed with an eating disorder but I think I may be very warped around my use/need for food.
The thing is I think surgery might help as I know when I cannot have something for a concrete reason I just don't have it. An example. I would eat chocolate until my stomach aches with it. Then I started getting panic attacks. I narrowed it down to chocolate and cola that caused them. Therefore I don't eat them anymore. Haven't for almost 2 years. I can remove things but not moderate. The clinic could help me address my psychological issues and doesn't necessarily lead to surgery.
So here's my idea. I will try the Blood Sugar 8 week 800 calorie a day diet while I wait for my appointment. But if I lose weight will they then say I don't need help ... should I wait? I actually feel quite motivated to do this.
AIBU to not diet when I actually feel ready to do this and succeed so I can get help in case I wobble again? I am so confused Sad

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TheFrenchLieutenantsMonkey · 03/01/2017 21:29

So for whoever asked no even if I lost 2stone in 8 weeks I'd still be obese. However I might dip below the bmi threshold for referral.

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freddiemercury · 04/01/2017 01:04

don't do surgery...your problem is your relationship with food. you need counselling. otherwise you will still over eat after surgery..eg melting chocolate.

BigChocFrenzy · 04/01/2017 06:46

Mosely's 800 cal BSD is based on the brilliant research by Prof Taylor (Newcastle Uni), who won the Diabetes UK Banting award for his Twin Cycle Hypothesis to explain the cause of T2.

PCOS is related to issues with insulin metabolism, so can also be helped by the BSD.

The science behind the BSD: Banting Memorial Lecture

Mosely has a BSD support forum with recipes etc to make 3 daily low carb meals rather than the shakes & veg in Taylor's original Newcastle Hospital Protocol

Good luck in achieving your goals, whatever method you choose Smile

MrsPeelyWally · 04/01/2017 06:53

OP, I would go for the 800 a day eating plan in view of your PCOS and insulin resistance as it's a medically proven method that works.

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JungleInTheRumble · 04/01/2017 07:03

Could you try hypnotherapy to try and change your relationship with food?

Completely different situation but I had one hypnotherapy session to tackle a phobia and it worked incredibly well at "re-programming" my mind. It was weird because all through the session I was completely aware of what was going on and thought no way could this have worked, but it did!

RoseGoldHippie · 04/01/2017 07:05

OP speak to your doctor about trying Cambridge Weight Plan - my dr recommended it to me and I lost 6 stone (after never being able to loose weight long term)

It makes to completely change how you think about food and almost 're trains' your eating habits. You start very low on shakes and meal replacements and start slowly adding more food back in as you go up the steps until you are on a 'maintain' calorie allowance (mine was about 2000)

My friend started it last Jan and has lost 10stone and looks great!

Good luck though with whatever you choose to do!

anoriginalusername · 04/01/2017 07:22

Op I'm going to go against the grain a bit.

800 calories a day is not sustainable. Even for 8 weeks. It will make you irritable and miserable and will likely send your body into starvation mode so any real food consumed after this your body will cling to.

What about something like the body coach meals? Quick, easy, nutritious and normal. Not restrictive in the slightest. Combine that with exercise (start with some long walks/take the stairs everywhere/go swimming with your dc ) and it will make a huge difference

ofudginghell · 04/01/2017 07:31

Op you sound quite negative about yourself.
It's hard to feel positive when your angry at yourself for the situation but please try and remember that you posting in the first place is a really positive thing as it shows your in the right mind set to start but negative thoughts about yourself will and probably have in the past hindered your plans.

Maybe a therapist and a dietician would be the best starting point for you.
Your only 39 so nows a perfect time to start a life change rather than fad diet.
Your children will see a determined mum with motivation to change your life.
I always say to my dc everyone makes decisions and does things that aren't always the right things but it's how we deal with it that counts and showing g them that you mean business and are determined is a great way for them to learn.

Do you have a dietician at your local surgery?or how about a health visitor that could refer you?

Catlady1976 · 04/01/2017 07:38

Op I did a vlcd as I tend to overeat and needed to lose weight for surgery. It worked short term but six months later it is all back on.
Guess it's time for me to ask for help again. Although GP was rubbish. No 12 week slimming world here unless on free prescriptions but didn't offer an alternative.
Good luck op.

MrsPeelyWally · 04/01/2017 07:44

OP we're the same height and I'm 2 stone l heavier than you. I'm pre diabetic and on medication.

4 years out of my lifelong marriage I've finally got my head and my heart in a good place and I'm well on my way to tackling my problem. I'm doing it under the supervision of my son in law who's a Dr and a super fit crossfitter, he has a special interest in preventative medicine and says to patients I can give you medicine or I can suggest life style changes that will have the same outcome - it's up to you to decide. More and more of them do the lifestyle changes.

So the goals for me are to lose 25 kilos by April 2018 when I'll be 60, to get off my medication by reversing my pre-diabetes, and to enter a Spartan race at the end of the year even if I don't complete the course - though I'm told I will.

How am I doing it?

Ok, so I'm eating according to a pre-diabetic/fat tummy eating plan. I'll post a link to it once I'm home. I'm doing dry January even though I only drink about 10 units of alcohol over a week. I'm not eating after 7 so that by the time I've had breakfast I will have fasted 12 hours. And that really is a big thing for me to try and do because since being on my own after 36 years of marriage I filled my nights with treats in front of the tv and my last meal of the day would be a huge bowl of cornflakes about midnight. My son in law is a big believer in the fasting aspect of things for people trying to turn their health around and I've woken up feeling great these few days.

I'm also excercising and I've left my usual gym where I had my personal training because to be honest, although great, it was kind of pretty. I was never told what I was going to do, or had things set out in a matter of fact way - it was always ok let's see how we get on today. Anyway, I now go to the same crossfit box my son in law and daughter go to and I do personal training with the head coach there. It is not pretty. In fact it's very basic and tatty, it probably resembles those boxing clubs you see on films from years and years ago. The equipment is functional and basic - think of huge tyres from articulated lorries instead of very fancy made especially for gym type tyres to throw around. I love it. It's raw. I'm never told we are going to give this a try and see if you can do it. I'm told this is what you're going to do - and I do it. In fact I can't get over what I'm able to do - yesterday one of my achievements was 60 squats over 12 minutes holding a 15 kg weight. I did sets of 5, had a short rest, then started again. I'm 59 in 3 months and I can't believe I could do that because in my other gym I would just have done squats to nice music. Here I have someone telling me I'm a machine and the music is absolutely bloody bonkers. Grin. I've had 6 sessions, I go 3 times a week but that will soon go up to 4 times per week, and I feel a huge difference in myself already. Oh and I wasn't asked how much do you want to try and perhaps lose this month - I was told ok, your target weight loss this month is 5 kilos.

Has it been easy? The food has. The excercise however is a challenge, especially when I've wanted to be sick, but my son in law has explained all of that to me now and I'm not scared of it anymore.

I'm sorry if I've gone on and on but if you want a bit of company while you're making this change to your life I'd be happy to keep company with you.

Oh and 8 years ago I had a gastric band fitted. It only stopped me getting heavier. And whilst I did lost 2 stone initially I stopped going for fills and the weight slowly went back on. Mind you my Dr told me I would have been better with the bypass as it suited my eating habits better, I was quantity not quality, but I went for the band instead. As heavy as I was - I could have never done the bypass and I'm glad now, even glad about my failed attempt at banding, because I've got my head and my heart around it all now and I think I have the best chance yet of doing what I have to do.

GloGirl · 04/01/2017 08:00

I have BMI of over 40 and was told I needed weight loss surgery this year. No way in hell did I want to live with those complications - commit my life to pureeing all my food, or living with constant reflux.

I obviously have a disordered way of eating so I figured I had nothing to lose by trying the 8 Week BS diet and having 800 calories a day.

I've lost nearly 2 stone in under 2 months and it has changed my outlook on life.

The studies show that it is possible to live on, and be happy and lose so much weight that those who put weight back on are still under their original weight and continue to make healthy choices.

It is hard but it is no way near the hardest thing I've ever done. I didn't suffer headaches or faintness but the be fair my first week I had about 1100 calories a day and the next week was able to drop my portion sizes down.

There's a really good Facebook support group and it is Filled with sucess stories. Have a read of the book.

GloGirl · 04/01/2017 08:03

The main change for me is not the 800 calorie it's living no carb - it's eye opening how I need it and how it centres in most of my unhealthy decisions.

The 800 calories is brilliant because I lose weight so quickly seeing thr results instantly is the best motivator in the world. I like instant gratification which is why I was overweight in the first place so the idea of losing 1 or 2 lbs a week did not appeal.

MrsPeelyWally · 04/01/2017 08:19

I have BMI of over 40 and was told I needed weight loss surgery this year. No way in hell did I want to live with those complications - commit my life to pureeing all my food, or living with constant reflux

You don't have that with the band. It really does just reduce your portion sizes. I never had any trouble with it. But deep down inside I knew it wasn't for me, that no weight loss surgery was. As it is my band is empty and will hopefully come out next year.

TheFrenchLieutenantsMonkey · 01/02/2017 20:40

Thank you everyone who commented back at the beginning of January. I weighed myself before Christmas and was 19st 2lbs. I've taken the plunge and started this diet.
I am currently 18st 4lbs. Its going the right way 😁

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