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[Anywhichway123]

Trying to move from our privately rented 1 bed flat to a 2/3 bed and we keep being told 'no children'. I can understand no pets but no children. Who rents a 3 bed house for just 2 people. Is this even legal? I live in the South East.

We're both professionals, trying to save to buy so renting atm.

Both our children are house trained!

We would look after the property because not only are we respectable and respectful we want to live in a nice home! We would replace, repair or redecorate anything that was needed before we moved out.

Can we save ths thread and wheel it out the next time someone talks about private landlords providing housing as if it's a public service?

A landlord also would have to expect more fair wear and tear from a family with children, than with adults, so it will be harder for them to argue that things have worn out more quickly.

(So a higher deposit doesn't make any difference, if they can't argue anything to get any deductions from it!)

Of course, against this lots of landlords like children, as people are much less likely to move once they have children, so they're more secure tenants.

BBCNews how have you managed to derive I am requesting private landlords provide social housing from this thread?? How is stating you leave a property in the same immaculate condition as it was when you moved in and always pay your rent on time asking for social housing? The tenant/landlord relationship is a mutually beneficial two way relationship!

Eh? How have you derived that from what I've posted?!

What I mean is, as other PP have pointed out, the landlords view their properties as an investment, not as a home. This is crap and causes problems, as you are facing now.

Yet whenever there's a discussion about housing issues (on here or irl), people start speaking up for landlords as if they were somehow helpful to society. Your dilemma is a good example of why that's bollocks.

Hope that makes sense!

If I was a landlord, I'd prefer pets to children. Even well behaved ones will have accidents, spill drinks etc.

Prior to us buying our house it was rented to a woman & her three children. They were allowed to scribble all over the walls which resulted in LL having to redecorate every room prior to putting on the market, unfortunately he didn't recarpet & again, every room was stained & ruined
It's thanks to cunts like this that LL feel the need to stipulate no DC.

I prefer to rent families. More likely to look after the place and treat it like a home IME.

*rent to families.

Can you ask the letting agent to pass on a letter to the owner detailing how you'd look after the property, etc? Worth a try.

I rent out properties and have a single mum with shudder!! a child and a dog too!.

The place is spotless, really is she takes excellent care of child and a lovely dog which I'm permitted to take for a walk from time to time:)

Win win:)

We bought a beautiful new build home 10 years ago. Our daughters were 11 and 13. Quite apart from the damage our elderly incontinent cats (now dead) have wreaked on our beautiful house, you can add in the nail varnish spill on a carpet from a mid teen daughter, the melted uvpc window frame when same daughter panicked and thrust a cast iron frying pan containing a burning sausage outside the window, the stained carpet when the older teen had a party and her mates somehow trod untold amounts of eyeliner into the floor and the dent in the garage door when the newly qualified 18 year old driver reversed into it. Not to mention having to have the living ceiling replastered and repainted TWICE because teenage hair clogged the drains and lead to their shower flooding. And so much more. little low level bits and bobs that all need sorting. And it was just as bad in our last house when they were tiny - I can remember a nice red velvet carpet that needed replacing when our newborn did a quite spectacular projectile vomit.

These are not feral children, they are bright, intelligent , easy going but thoughtless. For us it's all in a days work, this is our family home and day to day wear and tear is the price we pay for having a happy, sociable home. But we now have an investment property and I would rather leave it empty than rent to a family with children or pets. I don't mind paying to clean up after my own children and pets but I don't want the liability of other people's children's normal behaviour.

Surely being evicted when pregnant is discrimination ?

Oh, the D-word. You can call it that if you want but it'snot unlawful discrimination.

What I mean is . . . the landlords view their properties as an investment, not as a home.

Could that be because to the LL it is an investment, not a home?

A rental property is rented for financial gain.It isn't a home as such It's income source

I see our properties as homes for people to live in. I treat them like humans and they are fine with that.

I don't believe it should be legal. I don't follow why it's more ok to discriminate against people for having children than for being gay, and I think it ought to be covered under the right to a family life.

But it is part of a much wider problem with housing in this country.

I think families with kids are harder to evict too? Might be another reason?

Forgive my ignorance - but is it actually 'eviction' if you just, well, ask someone to leave? I always associated 'eviction' with something more forced.

Ending a tenancy agreement & eviction are two different things.

I really wish this kind of thread would get picked up by the newspapers instead of the rubbish they're interested in. Renting in this country is horrible. It's possible to find a good landlord but that's usually a matter of luck and legal protections are so weak.

I'm a landlord and use an agency. The agency has set stipulations that they say for all properties (no housing benefit, no pets etc) without even checking whether the landlord permits it or not. So it might be worth asking them whether they could ask the landlord if they will make an exception for you.

Could you try approaching your council for social housing. I know that more councils are taking people who work over those that don't so you might have a chance to find a home, also an affordable one so you could put some more away for your house deposit.

It sounds terrible but I do have some sympathy for landlords (and I am a parent myself). My parents rented out their house for a while to a perfectly respectable, professional family. They didn't trash the house but the kids did cause a lot of damage - pencil marks on walls, polished wooden floors were badly scratched and marked, etc.

It sounds terrible but I do have some sympathy for landlords

It does not sound terrible at all; they are people with rights too.

And yes Twogoats courts make it difficult to get possession when there are children involved even when possession is justified because of e.g. a dog kept in breach of contract.Which just makes it harder to rent if you have children.

All this talk of making it illegal is absurd. You can't force people to enter into contracts who don't want to.