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AIBU?

AIBU to think some doctors are really arrogant?

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forestsofthenight · 28/12/2016 18:36

I know some are wonderful: I did have a lovely GP once but as a whole does anyone else find them horribly arrogant? Just been in hospital and without fail was spoken to like shit by doctors while the nurses were lovely. Has anyone else found doctors to be so up themselves?

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AnyFucker · 28/12/2016 19:02

I don't think you can generalise

There is a generation of doctors that cling on to paternalistic and elitist attitudes. They will die out like the dinosaurs they are within a generation

The most arrogant medical professional I have come across was a midwife and they are generally fab

Rattusn · 28/12/2016 19:06

'I just noticed the same arrogant attitude amongst all of them'

Yes yabu to generalise like that.

I'm a junior doctor and do a hard job for far less pay than most people would think. Morale is extremely low at the moment due to a certain health secretary who is keen to belittle us in every way possible. The job is becoming increasingly difficult as resources are becoming more stretched, and it's front line staff who always bear the blame for decisions which were made by management.

myoriginal3 · 28/12/2016 19:08

I find the nurses arrogant and the doctors to be more professional.
Nurses try to shut me up.
Doctors answer my questions.

forestsofthenight · 28/12/2016 19:09

I'm tres middle class, darling

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neverwronged · 28/12/2016 19:09

Most of the Drs I've worked with have been decent people; kind, none judgmental and do their best. Often they are overworked and utterly knackered.
I've met far more awful patients.

Honeyandfizz · 28/12/2016 19:10

Completely agree with you and I work alongside Doctors, have done for nearly 20 years.

StillMaidOfStars · 28/12/2016 19:11

I teach doctors. We spend a lot of time making sure they are confident and own everything they do. We instill in them the feeling they are faintly god-like. Cold authority (perceived as arrogance) is better than indecision.

BTW, the most successful I've taught are those who realise what's happening.

QueenOfTheFuckingWorld · 28/12/2016 19:16

How miserable. The next time I'm working 12, 14, or even 24 hours instead of the 10 I'm meant to work I'll remember this.
No wonder doctors are leaving the NHS in droves.
There isn't going to be an NHS soon OP. Then you'll be able to whine about how expensive we are too.
For fucks, fucking sake

thatdearoctopus · 28/12/2016 19:16

Yes, well this is just what the over-worked, under-funded and hugely-stressed nhs staff need right now, a thread on Mumsnet slagging a large proportion of them off.

missyB1 · 28/12/2016 19:16

Some of the older Doctors still have the "God complex" but most of the younger ones are much more empathic and down to earth. I've worked with some very arrogant rude Doctors but also some lovely caring ones.
I'm married to a nice one

myoriginal3 · 28/12/2016 19:17

Some of us appreciate you!

forestsofthenight · 28/12/2016 19:18

Oh come on, if someone leaves because an ill person is grouching a bit (and I did add the disclaimer 'some'!) - really, woman up

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Runny · 28/12/2016 19:18

Why do so many posters on MN get their knickers in a knot whenever HCP's are criticised? The OP made it perfectly clear she was talking about some Doctors and not all of them, she has obviously been unwell and in hospital and is refering to her own experiences, she's quite blatantly not making sweeping generalisations about the profession as a whole.

We all know Doctors work 'long hours', it doesn't make them expempt from criticism.

thatdearoctopus · 28/12/2016 19:20

My knickers are not in a knot in the slightest. Threads like this piss me off, however.

sj257 · 28/12/2016 19:22

I have encountered more nice doctors than not nice doctors. I took my daughter to A&E recently because she had a bad headache and a very sore neck. I panicked as there had been a case of someone we knew dying from meningitis a few weeks earlier. She was fine it was viral, the doctor could have been awful to me, said I was overreacting etc. but he didn't, he was lovely, understood exactly why I had taken her without me explaining and told me more warning signs for meningitis.

myoriginal3 · 28/12/2016 19:22

Fwiw my brother is one of you dudes, living in Canada for the past six years I think. He's an arrogant brother lol but a brilliant doctor apparently.
My favourites are the grumpy surgeons. They are on my level. I shout. They shout. I end up needing emergency surgery.

WallisFrizz · 28/12/2016 19:24

I've encountered quite a few hospital doctors over the last few years and generally found them professional but distant. They did their job but gave me the absolute minimum of their time (probably because that's all they could give due to workload).

Nurses and midwives seem to give a lot more of their personality and warmth. The exception to this was when my newborn DD was in Nicu. The staff there, nurses and doctors, were all kind and generally fabulous, spending plenty of time talking to worried parents and siblings.

treaclesoda · 28/12/2016 19:24

But actually the OP said 'as a whole' which implies she means the nice ones are the exception rather than the rule.

Runny · 28/12/2016 19:27

thatsearoctopus should doctors be exempt from criticism now then? Should we all worship at their Godliness instead?

No one is infalible.

araiwa · 28/12/2016 19:27

i bet there are more twatty patients than doctors

and doctors have to deal with these people at the end of a huge shift

Serin · 28/12/2016 19:27

DaisyFrumps

I can't get beyond what you said about the Dr who threw a scalpel and sang Happy Birthday at a late termination.

What did YOU do about this?

Tell me that someone complained

pollyglot · 28/12/2016 19:27

It certainly was the norm 40+ years ago to encourage medical students to believe that they were one step below the Archangel Gabriel. It was supposed to be part of the healing process - doctor=omniscient=cure. Unfortunately, there is a fine line between the doctor conveying the comforting feeling to the patient that he is infallible to appearing as a twat.

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shinynewusername · 28/12/2016 19:30

The OP made it perfectly clear she was talking about some Doctors and not all of them

From the OP: "as a whole does anyone else find them horribly arrogant?"

lampshady · 28/12/2016 19:37

When I had a suspected miscarriage at 23 I had the third degree from a junior doctor. Was it planned? What job did I do? What did my husband do? How were we planning to finance the baby?

I'm an ex self harmer. What are those scars? How often did I cut? (They were all over 8 years old). Why would I bring a child into that environment?

I complained loudly and frequently until I received a personal apology. High workload does not excuse invasive and irrelevant questioning of a distressed patient.

thatdearoctopus · 28/12/2016 19:39

thatsearoctopus should doctors be exempt from criticism now then?

Where has anyone said that? But what on earth is the point of being so unnecessarily mean as to start a thread like this, on the back of one or two interactions where a doctor didn't match up to Dr Fucking Kildare?

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