.....to try & get my neighbours evicted?

[Strongerthanme]

NC as sensitive issue & I'm just so gutted.
I used to have neighbours from hell (dealing drugs, anti-social behaviour etc) & the landlord didn't care. My complaints were ignored. The tenants eventually did a runner owing loads of money & trashed the place. Lovely new neighbours moved in but now left. New neighbours have moved in just like the old ones it seems!
Junk in the front garden, parties 3 nights in a row, lots of people coming & going & ultimately I've been kept awake & on edge for 3 nights last week. They are currently away.
Not sure how long for?
Single parent here who relies on sleep to get me through tough job & looking after kids!
Am sure the agency won't listen again if I complain. What can I do?
Feel so powerless yet desperate to not have to put up with this shit again!

Excessive noise is a council issue so do contact the noise team. If there is a disturbance in the street at night you could ring the police saying there are young men arguing in the street and you are too scared to check exactly what is happening.

We lived above someone whose 20 yo son liked to play loud music and deal & smoke weed with his friends. A combination of the council noise team and the community police team eventually got the landlord to take the problem seriously.

If you see them damaging the property that might focus the landlord's mind so report anything like that.

Excessive noise is a council issue so do contact the noise team

Whilst I agree, I think it depends on the botheredness of the council. Where I last lived, they were very hot on people keeping to the tenancy agreements and letters of warnings were sent over things like excessive noise or even down to 'You've left it a fortnight too late to cut your lawn, sort it out' type letters.
Where I am now, they literally do not give a shit and as long as the rent is being paid they're happy for their tenants to do what they like. We have people coming and going all through the night, regular parties at all sorts of ungodly hours and arguments with others on the street / their partners / their kids. Or in one neighbours case here, screaming at paramedics for simply being in his way when he was still in his pyjamas and wasn't actually going anywhere.

Unless you've lived it it's hard to explain how bloody shit it can make you feel so I dont blame the OP wanting to be proactive this time around. OP keep bothering both the council noise team and the community police until they act on it. Start keeping a log/diary too of events that are happening as it helps show them just how antisocial it is.

Sympathy op. Unless you have lived next door to low lives you have no idea. The posters commenting that maybe it's a Christmas party, sofa there as house renovations etc are very naive.

We were fortunate enough to be able to move to a middle class area. Dh and I used to be quite left wing, state should help types. Not any more.

All the "have you spoken to them" people have not got a CLUE and have obviously never been in that sort of circumstance with those sorts of neighbours.

We have and never again, it was awful.

How hard would it be to move?

We still laugh wryly about the difference between our old neighbours and our current ones.

Old neighbours - unemployed, drug dealing, out of control staffies leaping fence and shitting in our garden, gangsta rap, undesirables hanging around, child neglect, dv, constant weed smoking, fights in street, flat and garden trashed.

Current neighbours - recently retired doctors, keen gardeners, low key, kind. When they have a garden party we just hear quiet laughter and chink of glasses. Bliss.

We were fortunate enough to be able to move to a middle class area. Dh and I used to be quite left wing, state should help types. Not any more.

All the "have you spoken to them" people have not got a CLUE and have obviously never been in that sort of circumstance with those sorts of neighbours.

YY to this! My favourite neighbour got abusive with the paramedics at 5am in the morning. If he's not going to be reasonable with them in a middle of an emergency he's not going to be up for a reasonable chat with me is he?!

KERALA This interests me. I'm on benefits (ill health) and I'm considered the snob on this street. I dont drink or smoke and have a 30 - 40 minute commute (or walk if my health is feeling up to it) in the morning and evening to take my DCs to an OOC school in a middle class area because their last school was beyond shit and no other close ones had the spaces. I cant move as no one wants here. But I'm also degree educated so was just wondering where you drew the line on the whole state should help thing. ^^ A

Sorry my quotes are muddled up.

You have my utmost sympathy OP. I had ndns like that a few years ago. Unfortunately they owned their property so absolutely fuck all I could do apart from report to police and log a nuisance complaint for noise with the environmental health. Non of which could do anything really.

They eventually sold up after about 3 years of hell. It culminated in my dp finally losing his temper and hitting the guy. This was the day after my stepdad had died, and we had asked them to keep the noise down that night as I was exhausted and upset.

They didn't and someone else complained about DV. They wouldn't answer the door when the police turned up so the police used a battering ram thing to break their front door down which as the front doors where facing each other in a passage sounded like they were coming through my front door.

The afternoon after my dp caught him trying to kick the door in again. The little scroat wasn't as brave with his fists when faced with someone bigger than him.

Anyway. I really wish we had moved rather than put up with that for the amount of time we did. Are you in private rented? Have you spoken to your landlord if so? Sometimes ll listen to other ll. But if it's the second lot of rough tenants I suspect that either the ll or agent doesn't really care who is in the property. Especially if the rent is cheap enougg to be covered by HB if they get in arrears.

I am no snob and of course those that need help should get it. But seeing the system be roundly abused made me think the system needs to improve. Our neighbours were infantilised, given a flat (in central London!) which they then proceeded to destroy. No care or responsibility shown for themselves, their children, their community. Giving them money wasn't working. If I knew the answer I would be a politician. Just my middle class sympathy for those less fortunate rose tinted glasses were wrenched off.

I understand KERALA I wasn't calling you a snob by the way. I'm considered a snob round here because I won't 'join in' and smoke weed like all the others, or smoke generally or go to parties and get pissed out my head in the back garden until 3/4am in the morning. All my spare money goes on my DCs, as it should do.

In my DCs last school, parents would often rock up at 9am in the morning stinking of weed and no one would bat an eyelid. That's always stuck in my mind because said parent was complaining they couldn't afford to get world book day costumes for their DC.

We are lawyers we have money we could choose not to expose our children to that and so moved the hell away. Dh and I often said the people we really feel sorry for are the decent people (you and op) who have no choice but to live next door to people like that.

Thanks KERALA. I've always said if I ever win the lottery I plan on living in the middle of nowhere with no neighbours!

Morning all & thank for all the sympathetic posts.
I'm renting & have been here 6 years. It's our home & I love the area plus the DC school is minutes away etc. Moving house would be a massive hassle but I feel confident it's gonna come to that.
Have mentioned it to my LL & he is away at the mo but y'day said he knows the other LL & will give me his details/make contact with other LL next week when he's back.
In the meantime I'm writing it all down. Haven't involved the council noise team yet as have been asking them to keep the noise down myself but did 101 it & was told there is nothing the police can do unless there was an 'incident' - I said what would happen if I was threatened & they said NOTHING! Only if I was physically attacked....
I wish that when it happened last time, I had known some 'heavies' who could have gone & had a word as sometimes they can be more effective than the agencies/council/police.

Start making it your LL problem - you're a good tenant and your LL will need to pay agent fees for new tenants who will complain and move out quickly too ... THis is much more your LLs problem than it is yours, because you can just move while he's stuck owning the property with neighbours from hell

Giselaw yes, thank you for that. I need to start delegating don't i?
I bloody hated doing the 'knocking on the door annoying neighbour' thing the other night. The other neighbours are students who are currently away, big drinkers who I think don't care that much & an empty property so it's just ME who's involved here & already the stress is doing my head in!

I would stop knocking stronger. Every time it happens ring the council noise team / landlord / community police. Someone will have to deal with it eventually.

I bloody hate LAs and LLs who let areas turn to shit as long as their £ keeps rolling in. If they had to live next to it they wouldn't last a week.

Noise team won't do anything til 10pm & then often don't rock up Til gone midnight.
Police don't wanna know.
Yes perhaps if I get the LL number I can call him & ask him to go round each time? That'll be interesting.... He'll soon get pissed off with that one.
Agree Pixies it's fucking shit.
Already looking around at other places in the area....

Just wish all the dreadful people could be housed altogether away from decent folk. If you haven't experienced it you won't understand.

@raviolidreaming, how long did that process take? We (and rest of the Street) can’t sleep due to antisocial behaviour round the clock. Council are now making them sign antisocial order. When (not if) they break it it’ll pass to ASB team but they won’t say how long that process can take or what need to happen to achieve eviction.

Zombie thread

@GimmeTheHoneyMummy about 6 months all in, if I remember correctly. If you start a new thread then you'll get lots of advice. It's an awful situation to be in.