AIBU to ask my DF to stop vaping when sitting next to me or should I go further?

[Vida32]

I'm 5 months pregnant with my first and DM and DF are staying with us for a few days over Christmas. DF has fought a long, hard battle to quit smoking after decades. After several failed attempts he finally did it with ecigs. Whilst staying with us I haven't said anything when he's vaping in the same room. I just sit on the other side of the room. Today he was sat next to me for half an hour doing it non-stop and eventually I felt I had to ask him not to because I wasn't comfortable.
I know there have been some studies showing it can do damage to fetal development in mice. I know those studies aren't conclusive but it's safety hasn't been shown either way.
DF was quite good about it but a bit upset and said it's completely harmless. He did stop.
AIBU? I don't want to make him feel bad but I want to make the best choices for my baby. Or should I go further and ask him to stop doing it in the same room at all?

can't you just say the smell makes you feel sick?

The NHS prescribed nicotine replacement to pregnant women when I was having my first 11 years ago.

I vape and do vape in my home. However, i would never dream of doing that in someone else's house if they didn't like it.

I use nicotine free oils and my friends all know that so that could be why they let me vape when I'm in their house.

YANBU but you are not going far enough!!!

Either designate one room for smoking in or say the garden.

Google ecigarettes exploding and then see if you still want to sit next to him while he puffs away.

As far as being upset, sorry but fuck that! It is your home, you are pregnant, he does not get to be upset, he respects your boundaries and goes in the porch/garden/patio/spare room, where ever you designate!

You and baby come first!

Google around there are lots of stories.

"A plastic surgeon revealed earlier this month that a smoker was left with "catastrophic injuries" similar to a gunshot wound to the face after their e-cigarette exploded in their mouth."

www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/horrifying-moment-mans-e-cigarette-9145148

Italiangreyhound just about every case of ecigarettes exploding have been caused by them being charged using the wrong chargers e.g. iPhone chargers. Most ecigarette batteries can only be charged at a slower rate than modern smart phones, so using a smartphone charger plugged into the mains can cause real problems - not so bad if you charge from a laptop or PC, as they charge at a slower rate. There's also been cases of people using ultra cheap chargers from the street traders, something that you should never do with ANY electrical products.

Most types of electrical goods have had a few incidents of going up in flames, google tumble dryers catching fire, or smart phones, or lap tops, or children's toys...

All I thought someone might have some answers for why this happened. To me it does not negate the fact that every time I see someone vaping I move away.

I have no idea if the OP's relative, or strangers on the street, have used the right charger, I'm the right way or have used or a charger bought on the street.

Equally most people do not sit with a tumble dryer next to their face or walk down the street with one.

So although the likelyhood of having a 'gunshot' type injury from an ecigarette is not massive I think it is one I would still rather avoid!

personally to me its the same as smoking - screw the results I don't care my house my rules and yes I would actively move away and talk about the stink when out and about as well - its the same inconsiderateness and smoking in someone who doesn't smokes vicinity in my opinion.

I find it profoundly irritating.

OH had a massive one (no pun intended) and he used to clutch it like a bloody dummy and the stench of the plumes of rhubarb and custard smoke made me feel sick.

He was on a documentary (in the background) and saw himself with it and stopped (but now smokes again ...).

*Crowd "He was on a documentary and saw himself!" Wow, that is a novel way to see how it looks. Sorry he started again .

I think the dummy comparison is very apt.

Very, very simple, Your house, your rules.

I have no idea why normally sensible people think it's ok to vape next to you, when they wouldn't smoke. Since the whole point of e-cigs is the nicotine, they are distributing nicotine into the adjacent atmosphere.

I also hate people who have a cig immediately before coming into your house too. It stinks! You do too.

Ok the explosion things are generally misleading
E cigs come either with built in batteries or separate ones. People using the separate battery type take spares with them. Usually men, who put them in their pocket without a case. Men generally have change in their pocket. See where this is going?
The battery + coins...
It could be a battery for anything but the headlines always say "e cig explode!" Because it's better than "man stored battery in his pocket with coins and without a case like an idiot"

Hollinhurst the advice is also found here.

www.google.co.uk/amp/fox59.com/2016/05/19/vaping-explosion-knocks-out-mans-teeth-rips-hole-in-tongue/amp/

So if you are vaping alone you can presumably know your device is safe.

But if someone is vaping next to you then you need to be able to trust their device is safe.

That is why I move away from people vaping.

I get that. It does say about the battery in that article. There is regulated and unregulated ones, I use one that has a built in battery and is regulated and charge it with the charger it came with. It also has a built in cut off which the unregulated ones don't
I guess I'm slightly biased but I tried many times to quit smoking and this is the only thing that's worked. 30 a day for 20 years and I bought one and stopped smoking that day

Good for you Hollinghurst. If it helps people stop a deadly habit, great. But I still think it is, of itself, anti social and where you can do it should be limited. And the OP has every right to limit its use in her home.

OP you asked him to stop and he did so not sure why you're along AIBU

Of course. What I do object to is people commenting on it in RL
Nobody ever commented when I smoked, now I get things like that's disgusting/it causes new cancers/that'll kill you/when are you going to stop that
I use mine at home, at work and in the street. If I'm say sat on a bench in the park then I check it isn't drifting towards someone or I stealth it so there is no vapour. I would ask before I used it at someone's home, and I check in pubs (most are fine with it)

vapingsucks.blogspot.com/

Only the terminally deluded assume that use of a douche flute is "harmless" or has "negligible effects". See:

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YANBU. We don't allow vaping in the house, I can't stand the smell. It is not conclusive that it is safe and I'd rather not risk it. One "friend" of DH fell out with us though when we wouldn't let her vape in the house!

i hate the sickly, sweet vomit inducing smell of vaping, plus it looks twatish [am an ex smoker]