Mums lost the plot

[Madeyemoodysmum]

Ffs. Just spoke to my mum and she is planning on half cooking the turkey now and finishing it off tomorrow. I told her you can't do this with poultry.

Aibu to not let my family eat it tomz.

She has lost it!!!!
I'm right aren't I???

OP, it sounds as if your mum is struggling with doing her Christmas dinner this year and is looking for shortcuts. Maybe suggest she cooks the turkey the conventional way and say you'll all go out next year or have Christmas at yours.

OMG I'm surprised you are still alive? Maybe you've built up antibodies to badly cooked turkey? How many has she half cooked over the years?? Then finished off the next day...

Oh bloody hell, you can't half cook it - why doesn't she cook it all, slice it up and either reheat in gravy or have it cold with the dinner .... make sure she cooks it properly eeeek

The mould that you see is only the spores/fruiting bodies. The hyphae are the "roots" which the fungi extend into the food to digest it and telease all manner of nasty shite. Don't be cutting the mould off. Chuck it in the bin.

I always cut the mould off

My mates gran used to do this with chicken. Everyone survived but the meat was as dry as fuck.

Hard cheese with mould is fine if you cut the mould off, same with bread - not sure where that came from (although I'd throw away any mouldy soft cheeses - not so much because of the moulds, more because there might be harmful bacterial growth you can't see as well).

Re-cooking half cooked chicken isn't good though! Even if she cooked it to a crisp so no living bacteria remain there's a chance bacterial toxins may be present. It might not have poisoned anyone yet, but it's a game of roulette.

It used to be quite common to do it (as someone else said). I'm not sure if people did actually die from some of these habits (and not know what had caused it) or if we are far too fussy now?

My 87 year old Aunty, who is fit, healthy, 'with it' etc and incredibly house proud (her place is immaculate), does some things we consider 'not a good idea' such as wash chicken before cooking it, defrost things on the side etc. We have all lived to tell the tale.

But please don't worry, you're safe to come to mine - I'm apparently 'over the top' about everything like that, plus I'm vegetarian so you're in NO danger of getting undercooked meat 😁

She is very sprightly. We invite her to us but she likes to be at home in case brother decides to come over. Funny brother is eating out this year before they turn up!! Maybe from now on we will have dinner at home and go over later or I will do the turkey if she insists on being at hers.

What do you mean about defrosting things on the side - what's wrong with that?

Mould

Hard cheese is ok IF you cut a GOOD size bit off (an inch all around it)

Soft cheese is NOT
Bread is NOT

Most things are NOT

This link explains it quite well

articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/01/10/moldy-bread-cheese.aspx

Defrosting should be done in the fridge, not on the side.

Yikes! Even I know not to do that!

We always defrost on the side and finish off in the fridge. There's no way I'd be eating that turkey though!

I defrost everything on the side

Oh and I'd cut mould off hard cheese too but I'd be going nowhere near that turkey

Ok now some of this is ridiculous. Yoghurt/soft/bread cheese can have mould picked off it. It's how I'm used to eating it. And I haven't once got sick from it. Also, don't see what's wrong with defrosting on the side as opposed to the fridge when you're going to cook anyway.

Exactly what kepton said, word for word.

I reheat rice.
I sometimes defrost meat/chicken on the kitchen top instead of fridge.
Stomach definitely made of cast iron

Mercola is a quack and I'd believe nothing I read on his site.

A pub near me did this a few years ago and actually killed someone and the manager went to prison.

Please don't eat the turkey if she does it like that

I'm sure lots of things used to be commonplace that are considered far too high risk now.

I wonder if there was higher immunity then as well as a different attitude to risk?

MrsKG nothing wrong with reheating rice as long as it's been stored properly - cooled and put into the fridge quickly, not kept too long, and heated through properly. It's rice that's been kept at room temp that'll cause problems.

Re defrosting, I watched a programme a while ago based in NZ where the govt food safety body were insisting food should be microwaved to defrost or defrosted under running water? Seemed odd. The idea being to defrost quickly I think.

Years ago people would put the turkey in the oven overnight and Gordon Ramsey still talks about his mum doing it.

Not that we had Turkey when I was a wee girl. Its was Chicken we got because it was very expensive and not an every day food.

I discovered mum did this till 2 years ago on wednesday cooked half night before im still standing obviously she stopped doing it because she and dad go out xmas eve for an hour or 2

On my lastest food hygiene course we were told not to cut mould off anything because the spores will have spread through the food. Someone on here posted a thread about eating uncooked chicken and didn't get ill. That doesn't mean it's suddenly safe to eat uncooked chicken.