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AIBU?

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Manager keeps correcting me.

121 replies

User1234567891011 · 16/12/2016 09:01

I'm 100% okay with being told IABU.

I work in a fast paced area, very loud and very busy - its hard to hear people and as a result asking someone to repeat themselves is the usual. I often have to ask ''What?'' because I didn't catch something.

My manager has a habit of saying ''Pardon!'' every time I say ''What?'' as a way of correcting me - Every. Single. Time. Its like having my mother in work.

AIBU to think she shouldn't be doing this every time? I could understand if I wasn't saying please or thank you, but I do. Just for full disclosure we're from different counties (I'm from the north), she also tends to correct the way I say things because of my accent.

OP posts:
YelloDraw · 16/12/2016 10:28

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER me too. I do a 'sorry?' Pardon sounds so strange. What does sound a bit abrupt. Excuse me with the uoward inflection works too.

Fruitcocktail6 · 16/12/2016 10:28

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks 'pardon' is awful!

A child at my preschool had an awful habit of saying 'what you say?' When he didn't hear. But really fast, 'whatyousay?' Bloody annoying

NicknameUsed · 16/12/2016 10:30

"Pardon' is horribly bourgeois and non-U"

I think most people I know would think that "what" was rude. It sounds too abrupt and aggressive.

I don't know or associate with anyone from the upper classes, which is why I never hear people say "what". Maybe the "what" sayers are too used to being rude to their servants Grin

User1234567891011 · 16/12/2016 10:31

Just to clear it up, I don't say ''What?'' to customers, I say ''Can you say that again please?'' This is what we've been taught to say or ''Can you repeat that?''.

I'll say ''What?'' to a member of staff as we have to talk through gaps in the equipment to talk to the people in the kitchen (think any big fastfood place) and if she hears as she walking past she'll say ''Pardon!'' without stopping, to correct me.

OP posts:
Oysterbabe · 16/12/2016 10:32

Next time say
"That's OK I didn't even hear you fart"

SapphireStrange · 16/12/2016 10:35

To the contrary, Nickname, the thinking behind U and non-U speech is that the upper and working classes are very similar to each other. It's the middle classes who feel the need to differentiate.

Of course, Nancy Mitford's riff on U and non-U was pretty tongue-in-cheek, and I was being the same.

I do think 'Pardon' is try-hard though, like 'serviette' and 'lounge'.

DISCLAIMER I'm from a common-as-muck background.

LaContessaDiPlump · 16/12/2016 10:36

Both 'pardon' and 'what' are far better than a long, drawn-out 'HUUUUUH?' which my friend (whom I love, honestly) practically shouts every time she misses something. It makes me stabby [sblush]

Cantbeatatryer · 16/12/2016 10:38

I was also taught saying "what" is rude and to say "pardon". It's only by threads on here that I heard about "what" being OK and "pardon" is rude. I say sorry as a middle ground but never say "what" as I really used to get told off for it. I don't like my kids saying it either!

NicknameUsed · 16/12/2016 10:38

I must admit that I don't usually hear people saying pardon either. The default seems to be "sorry" where I live (South Yorkshire).

Cantbeatatryer · 16/12/2016 10:39

I'm also from a really common as muck background so I don't think it was a class thing!

ivykaty44 · 16/12/2016 10:39

Every time she says pardon, say

Granted.....

When she ask why are you saying granted

You wanted a pardon, and I keep granting them Wink

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 16/12/2016 10:50

She's rude and trying to put you down.
There is nothing wrong with having a different accent, so long as everyone can understand, what's the issue? Bit different if everyone had to ask you to repeat everything 3 times before they got it, but I doubt very much that's the case!!
She has no business trying to "tell you off" for the way you speak. Just ignore the ignorant busybody.

DontTouchTheMoustache · 16/12/2016 10:59

It's obviously a background thing. Where abouts are you from OP? I'm from Lancashire living in Yorkshire and I would never say what as I've always been taught it is incredibly rude, and I'd probably be a bit shocked if someone at work said what? to me (because where I'm from it is quite a confrontational thing). I've always just gone with a "sorry?" (I don't think I've ever said pardon?). It's possible your manager finds it very rude to say "what?" as well but ultimately if that's how you were brought up and it isn't rude where you are from then he can't really keep badgering you about it. If I tried to change from.saying "sorry?" it would be so hard cos it's so engrained. So it just comes across as quite wanky. It would be different if you were saying it to customers in think.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 16/12/2016 11:11

What on its own is rude, what was that is better because it's not as blunt. If any of my staff sad 'what' to a customer I'd take them to one side and explain that it's rude

You think it's rude. That is not the same as it being rude.

I would Hazzard a guess that far more people would consider it the correct word to use.

I'm pretty sure it's fairly safe to suggest that given the word assocation with class if it's accurate in any way shape or form then the following is likely

Working class 'what'
Middle middle amd upper middle 'what'
Upper 'what'

Whilst lower middle 'pardon'

On one of these previous threads a very hand wringy poster who went to great pains to highlight her middle middle credentials (it was most amusing) said she would consider you to have spoken to her like she had shat on your table if you used the word pardon or something like that

And pluto you could call it a shit box if you wanted

sj257 · 16/12/2016 11:22

I'm northern, wouldn't say 'what?' it's rude

GoneGirl1234 · 16/12/2016 11:22

Start using pardon instead of what in other sentences to her, like "pardon time do you need those spreadsheets done?"

Had a really snooty git at work who loved correcting people (and generally showing off about the stupidest things, like his personal supply of Earl Grey teabags because the standard ones were "common" Hmm). He took delight in correcting colleagues and pointing out "common" phrases they used or things they did.
Earlier this year we had a work experience kid who kept rolling his eyes at every "common" correction and who offered to do the tea round one day. Corrector-guy said "tea please, milk no sugar, but use my EARL GREY TEABAGS, I can't drink that other muck!" ... kid replied v loudly "MILK IN EARL GREY? How common!" Grin He has shut up about his fucking tea bags now

Hassled · 16/12/2016 11:24

I use "pardon" sometimes but my much-more-posh parents would be spinning in their graves if they heard me. "Pardon" is absolutely not OK to snobs those of a certain class.

Crankycunt · 16/12/2016 11:27

Sock, I've been brought up in a working class family, if I said what I'd be corrected, I've been taught that it is rude.

I assumed the op was saying what to customers, where in fact it's to her work mates, I think that's a little different.

CaraAspen · 16/12/2016 11:28

"Oysterbabe

What is the correct thing to say. You should start correcting her Pardon."

Exactly. Pardon is wrong.

midcenturymodern · 16/12/2016 11:29

I'm northern. I always say 'what?' for not hearing something. Pardon is for excusing a fart or burp unless you are just pretending it didn't happen, which is what I actually do.

I don't think pardon is horrid or vulgar, I just think it's a different word with a different meaning but not so obscure as to be incomprehensible. It's a bit like 'ignorant' which some people use for 'rude' rather than 'ignorant'. You know what they mean.
I can't fathom what is rude about what. It is rude to correct someone for a normal variation in speech. If someone said 'pardon' to me and I thought they meant 'what?' I would repeat myself, not bark 'What?' like a dickhead.

I find toilet a bit cringy but not so much as to shout 'loo' at passing co-workers who say they are going to the toilet. Language is a rich tapestry and all that.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 16/12/2016 11:37

That may as well be cranky but in the real world people use either what or pardon and whilst either could be considered to be pretentious or annoying neither are actually rude.

It is the tone they are said in that could potentially make them rude if you are so inclined to consider them as such but even then it does not make them so. And either word could fall victim to the belief.

CaraAspen · 16/12/2016 11:39

I wonder how many will actually say "What?", though?! As others have said "Sorry?" is a compromise here.

BratFarrarsPony · 16/12/2016 11:44

lol yes if she says 'pardon!' again , say 'why waht have you done'.
Pardon is horribly naff, but 'what' is often seen as rude.
Why not compromise and say 'whaddya say?'

Rachel0Greep · 16/12/2016 11:47

I used to work with someone who used to bark 'pardon' at people in such a tone that it would have been just as polite if she said what the fuck did you say... !

I don't think it's on for anyone to be correcting a colleague's speech or accent. I would challenge her on it, if I were you.

Purplebluebird · 16/12/2016 11:51

I say "what" or "hæ?" but I am Norwegian, so that's what we say! My other half often laughs at me (light hearted) or corrects me, to say "pardon" instead. We live in the SE and that seems to be the way to do it here, at least with his family.'

Saying that, I would be very annoyed at your manager! It's not her job to correct you!

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