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AIBU to be annoyed with my parents about an 'explosive risk' at nursery?

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Mojomarm · 14/12/2016 14:51

I'm a single mum working full time with a toddler, so my parents are closely involved with me & DS, and most of the time it's completely fine and they respect my decisions when it comes to raising him. The other night though when we stopped by for a cuppa on the way home from nursery, I mentioned that the messy play game for that day at nursery had been playing in flour to replicate the snow at Christmas and that DS had had a whale of a time according to the staff. I thought it was a sweet little anecdote to pass on so the sheer look of horror on my parents' faces threw me.

Dad in particular freaked me out as he's not the type to over-worry or try and wrap DS up in cotton wool but he was genuinely shocked about the 'explosion risk' from flour and said that it was dangerous for the nursery to be using it for play purposes. I know the science behind the risk of airborne fine particles causing large explosions, and have seen some horrible stories about it occurring in large-scale storage areas, but surely playing with a few 100g in a nursery is perfectly fine?! I tried to point out to him that it would be no more dangerous than me flinging some flour around when I'm baking or making dough, but he was adamant it was extremely dangerous as the babies and toddlers would be 'throwing it up in the air' lots. Mum then said I should ask for the risk assessment from the nursery. She wasn't joking either. To the point where later that evening when I was back home, she sent me an email with a link to the HSE website about explosive risk from powders in industrial settings (although she did manage to admit that the scale of flour being used was slightly different) and she knew I thought they were being 'silly' but it was a real risk.

REALLY?!?! Am I missing something here?! Have there been lots of stories about nurseries spontaneously combusting because the self-raising flour was chucked about one too many times by a small group of hell-raising babies?! I really like the nursery DS goes to. The staff are warm, friendly and I can see how much DS has come on in the few months he's been there. It's stupidly convenient for work too although this means it's not the one that's round the corner from my parents which I suspect it's why my Mum doesn't trust them (doesn't bother Dad I don't think).

They also make little comments about nursery not feeding him enough (he eats pretty much anything they give him - I'm trying to make the most of it before he gets fussy) and I'm starting to feel that they're trying to chip away at my choice of nursery for him as if my judgement in choosing it in the first place was wrong. I understand that they're concerned about DS and his wellbeing (currently their only grandchild), but it's pissed me off royally and I'm struggling to let it go, or know what to say to them to tell them to butt out when 99% of the time they're really helpful and supportive. I'm a non-confrontational type and I'm worried if I don't say something, it'll build up inside me and explode (pun intended) up into something else that might mean I say some hurtful stuff.

Parents eh?

OP posts:
Soubriquet · 14/12/2016 14:55

You what?!

Flour explodes and it's extremely dangerous?

Wtf...

Maybe if it's mixed with explosives they might have a point. Or fire

baconandeggies · 14/12/2016 14:58

They're jealous of the nursery Wink

EmeliaHerveyHenryFitzroy · 14/12/2016 15:00
Shock

They are batty. But brilliantly batty.

intravenouscoffee · 14/12/2016 15:01

Explosive flour? I had no idea that was even a thing. Will Google it...

Don't worry about the nursery, it sounds lovely. It's great that your parents are so supportive but ultimately you are DS's parent and you make the decisions. Smile and nodand then do whatever you think is best.

Gazelda · 14/12/2016 15:01

Crikey! I just don't know how to respond to this? It's the daftest thing I've ever heard.but now I'm wondering if I've been a negligent parent all these years by not making myself fully aware of the danger within my kitchen cupboards.

EagleIsland · 14/12/2016 15:01

The risk is minimal for one there is no source of ignition. Secondly the amount involved is not enough to be of any real danger. Finally in a play group I doubt there are many items that would become dangerous shrapnel. So in the absolute worst case scenario someone did manage to detonate it, you may have a handful of kids that are deaf for a day or two

PebbleInTheMoonlight · 14/12/2016 15:03

I'm 99% certain that the government would not allow us to buy bags of flour in explosive quantities over the counter in a supermarket.

Unless the nursery is stockpiling and letting the children play with hundreds of bags at the same time I'd say the risk of explosion is negligible.

Your parents are being slightly over the top about this.

AppleAndBlackberry · 14/12/2016 15:03

It would need something to ignite the flour though, e.g. a cigarette lighter or match or spark from a gas hob, none of which would be happening in a nursery.

OnionKnight · 14/12/2016 15:03

Absolutely mental Grin

Petalbird · 14/12/2016 15:03

Don't explosions require an ignition source? Or are the kids playing with fire and flour Hmm think this is a case of you need the parents to back off a bit

juneybean · 14/12/2016 15:03

What on earth. I've worked in childcare for a number of years but this one has passed me by?! Explosive flour?!

doomf · 14/12/2016 15:04

I work with a man whose spectacles exploded one day. He's batty too

TenaciousOne · 14/12/2016 15:05

There is an explosion risk with flour, however you need big quantities milling grain is quiet dangerous.

EagleIsland · 14/12/2016 15:06

It's not just flower that is POTENTIALLY explosive but any combustible powder. Things like paper dust, sawdust etc. there was a famous story years ago of a Italian wine cork factory which was full of cork dust. It blew up the whole factory

LottieDoubtie · 14/12/2016 15:07

This is brilliantly bizarre. Don't worry OP it isn't you!

myoriginal3 · 14/12/2016 15:07

Wtf? How the hell do people bake?

suddenly takes a keen eye on the great British bake off

SpotTheDuck · 14/12/2016 15:08

Flour is explosive, but it needs to be in large quantities to be a concern! Your parents sound like they have a bit of a bee in the bonnet about this one - did they know somebody who was injured in a flour explosion or something? If they're normally reasonable I wonder why this set them off?

harderandharder2breathe · 14/12/2016 15:09

Yes flour can combust I believe without an ignition, but only in the huge quantises found in a mill not in a couple of bags for babies to play in!

ElizaSchuyler · 14/12/2016 15:10

To be honest I wouldn't be happy about that, but because of asthma & the risk of inhaling such a fine powder if it was being thrown about.

But explosions - that's bonkers!

Budgiebonbon · 14/12/2016 15:13

Don't wish to scare anyone but just want to leave for everyones perusal. Wink

Especially OP's parents

Personally I cannot see any risk for the children & it is no different from the mushroom cloud of dust from my Kenwood when baking!

chocoshopoholic · 14/12/2016 15:14

Yes fine powders can ignite. I remember the exploding custard tin in my school science lessons.

There are a few YouTube videos which show it.

But without significant heat or a spark (which I hope your nursery doesn't have) it won't ignite.

CondensedMilkSarnies · 14/12/2016 15:15

Blimey , the dress code for the Great British Bake Off will be interesting Grin

Pinny , tin hat and a flak jacket !

reallyanotherone · 14/12/2016 15:16

Yep thats why GBBO is done in a tent in a field, away from populated areas.

Hmm
reallyanotherone · 14/12/2016 15:18

Budgie that is brilliant! Love that they left the spelling...

Xmassamx · 14/12/2016 15:19

There is a risk of occupational asthma from inhaling flour over a prolonged period but I think the risk is small for this short task.