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Starting to panic about climate change

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DorothyL · 12/12/2016 17:30

I keep reading how climate change is getting really bad and how we're reaching the tipping point/point of no return. It keeps me awake at night and makes me feel so anxious and worried for my children. I struggle to feel happy because I keep thinking that we're literally facing the apocalypse. How can I deal with this? Sad

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ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe · 13/12/2016 11:04

No, it won't happen today or tomorrow but it th future seems uncertain and it's worrying in long term.

I just don't want to realise in 20 years time that something could have been done but we didn't do it.

Bobochic · 13/12/2016 11:07

I wonder where all of you who don't feel as if they are currently living in an ecological disaster actually reside? And who you hanh out with?

TheWoodlander · 13/12/2016 11:25

I wonder that too, Bobo.

The posters that say "Bees ffs" - where have they actually been, in that they are unaware of the importance to bees to human life, and to the serious risk of their decline? Do they never read anything?

As for actual climate change deniers, well, I've noticed a fair few on MN - I'm never quite sure if it's ignorance, wishful thinking or Donald Trumpism.

Manumission · 13/12/2016 11:39

No, it won't happen today or tomorrow but it th future seems uncertain and it's worrying in long term.

It is worrying. I think OP needs to get her health sorted out enough to function, though.

ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe · 13/12/2016 11:40

Absolutely.

UnderCrackers5 · 13/12/2016 11:58

These alarmists have a lot to answer for. Personally, I am sick of them

DorothyL · 13/12/2016 12:23

I wish in a way that I could believe it's all alarmist

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UnderCrackers5 · 13/12/2016 12:27

It is alarmist. There is a half baked theory, some computer models and some thermometers sited in airports near jet engines. There is zero evidence that any warming is linked directly to human activity. There is a lot of conjecture and guesswork, but zero evidence of cause and effect.
Sleep easy:)

taytopotato · 13/12/2016 12:44

Hi OP, I feel for you as I have same concerns. However, we can still do something about it. Educate our children.

MuseumOfCurry · 13/12/2016 12:57

There is zero evidence that any warming is linked directly to human activity.

You're wilfully ignorant.

Footinmouthasusual · 13/12/2016 12:59

Yes bees ffs when clearly someone is suffering crippling anxiety!

Don't be so bloody stupid.

taytopotato · 13/12/2016 13:02
BroadBeanSlippers · 13/12/2016 13:02

There is zero evidence that any warming is linked directly to human activity.

Right Hmm.

UnderCrackers5 · 13/12/2016 13:03

You're wilfully ignorant

you are wilfully alarmist

MuseumOfCurry · 13/12/2016 13:08

Are you normally skeptical of scientific consensus, UnderCrackers - or just in this case?

BroadBeanSlippers · 13/12/2016 13:08

I'd rather be alarmist (actually, it's being a realist - this is an issue that everyone from the World Bank to the UN to local governments cares deeply about) than ignore the actual science in favour of coming up with embarrassing statements like this:

"There is a half baked theory, some computer models and some thermometers sited in airports near jet engines."

Footinmouthasusual · 13/12/2016 13:15

museum and some others have you not realised the ops anxiety is clearly damaging her health and her family life and more helpful sensible and measured responses including urging the op to get help might be a bit kinder and more sensible response and refrain from 'we are all doomed' Hmm

MuseumOfCurry · 13/12/2016 13:23

Climate change deniers serve only to fuel everyone's fears. Mocking the OP for her concern about bees (again, the most ignorant comment I've ever read on MN) isn't going to help her to sleep better.

albertcampionscat · 13/12/2016 14:36

On that basis, there's zero evidence that smoking causes lung cancer. It could all just be a coincidence. A vanishingly unlikely coincidence.

Footinmouthasusual · 13/12/2016 14:38

I wasn't mocking the op I was mocking you.

I have given the op the best advice to deal with her anxieties that I can to protect her health and her children's wellbeing.

You have simply fuelled the fire.

Can you really not see this isn't about climate change. Dear me.

Footinmouthasusual · 13/12/2016 14:40

And everyone knows the evidence on climate change and only an idiot would deny it but with the ops first post some responses are I think very irresponsible.

UnderCrackers5 · 13/12/2016 15:22

Noone that I know denies that climate changes. It always has and it always will. Only an idiot would use the phrase climate change denier.
But their is no causal link between human activity and global warming. There is a shaky theory. Every single prediction coming from that theory has failed. Polar bear numbers are up, Antarctic ice is up, Kilamanjaro is still topped with snow. All that hot air that is supposed to be melting the north pole is about to pay a visit to the USA. They are anticipating record cold..its a crock

BroadBeanSlippers · 13/12/2016 15:39

The future of polar bears is not bright. This is from the WWF: "Global polar bear numbers are projected to decline by 30% by 2050."

More info on the polar bear number controversy here.

Someone (CotedeAzur) already patiently explained the Antarctic ice phenomenon.

No idea why you've singled out Kilamanjaro, out of all the ice regions that are melting?!

And finally, it's not HOT AIR that is melting the Arctic. It's warmer waters.

BroadBeanSlippers · 13/12/2016 15:42

And there is plenty - and I mean shedloads - of scientific data backing up the relationship between climate and human activity.

Although with the comments you've made (hot air, thermometers in airports, "Every single prediction coming from that theory has failed"). I doubt you've been reading anything scientific!

GrumpyOldBag · 13/12/2016 15:55

Undercrackers on what basis do you dispute the findings of the IPCC?

What are your qualifications?

Are you in fact Donald Trump?

www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/sep/27/ipcc-climate-report-un-secretary-general

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