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DS wont visit his dad if stepbrother is there

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historygeek17 · 26/11/2016 23:41

Exh and I divorced 5 years ago. Ds lives with me and visits his dad EOW. Exh has a partner who has two children and for the last 2 years we have been dealing with the issue of my ds getting bullied by his step-brother. I only found out about this after it had been going on for several months as my ds didn’t tell anyone for a long time. As soon as I found out then I spoke to his dad, who confirmed that he knew it had been happening but hadn’t done anything about it. This bullying involved physical attacks like pushing and kicking my son and kicking him between the legs. I was adamant that this needed resolved immediately and his dad agreed that it would be. The situation then got better for a while but then seemed to go back to the way it was before.

I have now raised this countless times and each time it is better for a bit then just reverts back. A few months ago exh moved in with his partner and her kids and the bullying escalated to the point that my ds refused to go and visit his dad if this child was there. I supported him in this and suggested that contact could take place away from his dad’s house (there were several other options available) but exh refused. He acknowledges that bullying but says its all in the past and says the kids just have to learn to get on. There is no real acknowledgement of the seriousness of the bullying and the impact that it had on my son, who was regularly in tears and even got upset at school about it.

There was a period of no-contact for several weeks as exh refused the idea of seeing ds anywhere other than his house but for the last few visits his partner’s child has been away for various reasons so ds has gone back to visiting his dad’s house. Now ds has learned that this child will be back during the next visit and is refusing to go. He is adamant that he wants to see his dad but will not be around this child. I have agreed to support ds in this decision and have taken legal advice, which basically said that as ds is 10 and given the situation, he is able to decide not to visit his dad’s house. Exh is refusing to accept this and saying that ds must go. He’s very angry that ds says he won’t go and is directing much of this anger at me (and some at ds), saying that this is ‘all my doing’. I have given him so many opportunities to deal with this issue and he has refused and stuck his head in the sand so I now feel that I have to step in and stand up for ds.

I want my ds to have a relationship with his dad and I understand how important that is to his overall happiness and confidence. The more people in his life that love and support him the better. But I can’t support putting him into a situation where he has been hurt before and is desperate to avoid now. In the period when he hasn’t had to be around this boy, he’s gone from crying at night and repeatedly talking about this situation, to no tears at all and just much happier in himself. I feel fairly sure that I’m making the right decision in supporting ds with this but would welcome thoughts from others as I know the implications for ds’ relationship with his dad are potentially huge. So AIBU in supporting ds in this way or would you act differently in my shoes? Any opinions would be gratefully accepted at this point as I’m at the end of my tether with deciding the right thing to do here and just want what’s best for ds.

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Bambamrubblesmum · 27/11/2016 10:58

You are 100% right in your approach.

If you don't stop it who will Sad

Your ex is thinking of himself not his child.

Wallywobbles · 27/11/2016 17:05

I've done the same except it was the dad bullying. I am in France where this is really hard to pull off and it took 6 years to get to the point where the kids said stop.

Ended up in court at my instigation as the kids wanted a resolution. The kids were heard by the judge aged 8 & 9 (with a court appointed lawyer) individually. Contact was ordered in a centre. He blew it. We are now no contact and the kids are much happier.

It took a long long time to find good psychological help for my kids. But the support was life changing.

Ohyesiam · 27/11/2016 17:49

You are facilitating contact, but your ex is not being responsible enough to keep to his end of it.
Peoples whole emotional life and ability to form relationships are based on receiving the kind of support you are giving your son, it's invaluable and will be with him for the rest of his life.

ohfourfoxache · 27/11/2016 18:02

Just want to tell you that you're a fab mum - your ds is so lucky to have someone to protect him from this Thanks

historygeek17 · 27/11/2016 19:30

Thank you so much for all of the supportive posts. The stepbrother is actually a little bit younger but is physically much bigger than ds and exh admits that he's very capable of overpowering ds, and has done so many times in the past.

I've tried to raise this again with exh and get ds' viewpoint across, but he said there's been no problem for a while, failing to recognise that this is because ds hasn't had to be around this child for several weeks. Ds has told his dad that he isn't going to the next visit but exh just states that he is going and refuses to listen so ds doesn't feel heard or that his feelings are being acknowledged. He knows that I support him and have his back though and I think this is helping to stop his frustration turning into the type of anxiety and upset that he experienced a few months ago.

Liletsthepink - you're absolutely right about him being a bully in our marriage.This is one of many reasons that I finally made the decision to leave (though probably still well after I should have).

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Muldjewangk · 28/11/2016 01:08

Ask your ex how he would like someone bigger to physically assault him and kick him between the legs EOW. Your ex is an idiot and has no empathy for his own child. He is probably more worried about explaining to his new partner why his son won't visit because her son is a bully.

RichardBucket · 28/11/2016 03:38

You're doing completely the right thing. You sound very switched on but just in case: please don't let this git make you doubt yourself.

DS is lucky to have you.

WiddlinDiddlin · 28/11/2016 04:53

Just so that there can be no doubt whatsoever..

I would ask your DS to write his father a letter, outlining that he is NOT willing to go to his fathers house, but he IS willing to meet up with his father in a variety of other places..

So days out, restaurants, other suitable activities

As long as the step brother is not there.

(It neednt be that formal, but so there is a written record that he is not refusing to see his father, he wishes contact to continue and these are the reasonable suggestions to avoid a known and distressing issue).

Keep a copy, send a recorded delivery copy.

Then his father really CANNOT claim that DS or you, have stopped contact, that you are not facilitating contact or that DS wishes to stop contact.

historygeek17 · 28/11/2016 20:18

That's a really good idea WiddlinDiddlin. I'll speak to ds tomorrow about doing this and I'm sure he'll be happy to write this kind of letter as he often finds it easier to express himself when he's writing than when he's talking, especially when he's talking to his dad as he just ends up getting talked over.

I've also kept all the emails that have been sent regarding this, including exh admitting that this has been a problem for two years and he hasn't done anything tangible to stop it, despite me raising it with him regularly. There's just a series of vague assurance that he'll sort it out but nothings actually been done. Hopefully these emails will help if it does end up in court, although I seriously doubt exh would be willing to pay the legal costs to take this further. I genuinely think he'll be willing to sacrifice his relationship with his son to avoid risking the new home he has with his partner and her kids.

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SENPARENT · 30/11/2016 00:41

"I genuinely think he'll be willing to sacrifice his relationship with his son to avoid risking the new home he has with his partner and her kids"

How very sad. Sad

MommaGee · 30/11/2016 01:19

Your ex is a dick
.yanbu

MommaGee · 30/11/2016 01:21

Could you sit down with ExP and his new partner just the three of you? It's her son who's being a thuggish bully after all

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