Child Maintenance, changing the way you pay

[newbiebegentle]

Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with changing from a Deductions of Earnings Order to standing order on CSA.

My other half has paid his maintenance payments for his DC from previous marriage through his work, he then changed jobs back in September, made them aware months before he would be changing and his increase in pay they told him to let them know at the time. I did this (I speak on his behalf to CSA because he doesn't understand it all).

They then told me he was eligible for a standing order so wouldn't have to set up DEO with new employer. They said this would start in October (shock it didn't).
I phoned again they said it's going to take longer and no timescales have been advised.

His Ex Partner has now been without payments for 2 months. She phoned them today and they told her they are going for DEO from his pay again as no payment received in 2 months, but this is due to him awaiting the standing order set up.

Does anyone have any experience with this or know around about timescale it takes to change the way you pay CSA?

The payment taken in September should have been sent in by the employer by 19th October so this also needs to be chased up...mention this too when you call

Well he could always just let her keep it. I mean he's paying the bare minimum, would it be really awful for his children to have a bit extra from him just for once?

He has already made payments to her and gives the children directly pocket money so they have a bit extra as an over payment and does this each month. If they need anything he will buy it as well as paying BARE MINIMUM child maintenance with excessive fees and as stated in above post he would rather be paying her directly the actual payment plus the fees so they receive more. So if it were just this once then yes he would, however it is not.

Well it Is just this once, unless he is expecting to change jobs regularly and cause this situation to happen again and again.

But well done him for buying them anything they need, that's like above and beyond the duty of a parent.. oh wait, no it's not. It's the least they should expect.

Excessive fees caused by him I will add. If he hadn't fucked about in the first place and been unreliable with feeding his children then he wouldn't have had a DEO put in place would he?

Nothing is above and beyond a duty of any parent but he does also have to make sure he can provide them with somewhere to stay 3 nights a week and transport so he can take them to and forth school/after school clubs/church, oh and food when he makes them breakfast/lunch/dinner too. With the excess he already pays to her over the bare minimum, the pocket money he gives directly to the children. He wouldn't be able to afford those basic things for his children when the arrears came through.

You have valid points however it is unreasonable to think everyone is a deadbeat dad just because they were late for one payment and have taken full responsibility and compensated for it ever since.

There must be an issue with the sept deduction and this is causing a delay setting up the direct debit. It is possible his employer has not sent in details of who has paid what (if a big company they'll be sending money for several parents). Until this is resolved your dh's accounts are not up to date and this is delaying the direct debit. He can call each month and pay by card. This might count towards the six months compliance. I would make a complaint. Sept DEO payment needs sorting and paying out and the delay in doing this is already excessive imo.

He wasn't late with one payment. Who do you think you're trying to kid here? Deduction of earnings doesn't happen because someone is late with one payment.

it is unreasonable to think everyone is a deadbeat dad just because they were late for one payment

One payment? I think, if this is what he's told you, he has been somewhat economical with the truth.

Jeni - you beat me to it ! Missed one payment ?? This is along the lines of " I was sanctioned for being 1 minute late for 1 appointment " crap I keep reading .

he does also have to make sure he can provide them with somewhere to stay 3 nights a week - so he has them 3 nights a week or am I misunderstanding? because if he has them 3 nights then the money, and therefore the charges, would be massively reduced anyway as she would only be getting money for the 1 night wouldn't she? that's how I've always understood it anyway.

DOE orders are only put on when the NRP is consistently late (or doesn't pay at all). They're not in place because someone is late once.

My ex fed me that line too. It's bullshit. He went months without paying because he hated his ex and was punishing her. Never mind the fact that his kids were going without food and necessities.

Why are you with man op? I hope you don't plan to have dc with him.

*this man

My ex was consistently late, didn't pay a penny from November to February every year. It wasn't until the third year, and after many many calls from me, that I managed to get a DOE in place. They consistently gave him the benefit of the doubt when he promised to pay.

One late payment my arse.

Deduction of earners are not set up by the payer but between CMS and the employers. I am in this process at the moment due to no payments since January. A standing order he sets them up himself so no excuse for non payment.

Not a chance they would go to a deduction of earnings after 1 missed payment. It took 3 no payments and 4 late payments to even go collect and pay - where fees are paid. It's now taking them since January to try and sort out DEO which still hasn't happened!!

Ah no deduction of earnings can be set up. My OH was paying on time every week in cash and he wanted to change to the CSA to get it more formal and they set up a deduction of earnings straight away on his request. So no it's not always because of many missed payments.

My husband had a deductions of earning order and he hadn't missed a payment to the csa. It can happen in error to all those who assume doa 's are for dead beat dads. Oh and my husband does pay the minimum cause she got the house.
Oh and she didn't tell the csa. Chb, or tax credit people that the eldest had left school for 6 months . So yes parent with care can be a nitemare as well 😀

You said he is taking Responsibility for it op but he isnt, is he? You are doing all the donkey work. Because he cant possibly work it out on his own.

How long have you been together btw?