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To feel depressed for the future for 'treadmill families'?

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user1478265589 · 16/11/2016 12:18

A report on the BBC website today says more and more people are having to run, just to stay still, and that's the experience of many people I know. I don't even know what can be done about it, it's just really depressing...

  • Millions of workers - particularly women - are trapped in low pay
  • Only one in eight children from low-income backgrounds is likely to become a high-income earner as an adult
  • From the early years through to universities and the workplace, there is an entrenched and unbroken correlation between social class and success
  • Despite some efforts to change the social make-up of the professions, only 4% of doctors, 6% of barristers and 11% of journalists are from working-class backgrounds.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-37987166

OP posts:
ChangingNamesAgain · 20/11/2016 12:38

I'm not convinced you can call Blair left either. He was 'new labour' and much more centrist in ideology & practice than the labour before him (& now under corbyn)

MiaHayek · 20/11/2016 13:54

Agree on Blair not being left. My point was that both the Tories and Labour- when in power have exacerbated the situation.

MiaHayek · 20/11/2016 14:03

Apoligies if I fooled anyone into thinking a newspaper article was 'fact'! It is written by George Monbiot and a lot of what he wrote in that article chimed with the OP. Hence the share. His article connected the dots for so much. I read ever word.

Dozer · 20/11/2016 16:22

The economist Tyler Cohen's stuff on this is interesting: basically argues that there are fewer and fewer well paid jobs, and it will only get worse as technology progresses.

user1477282676 · 21/11/2016 11:25

Dozer, it's true. Since more menial jobs don't pay a living wage, we're swiftly heading down a path of horror when it comes to the living conditions of many.

Pisssssedofff · 21/11/2016 15:29

And I hate to say it because I know it'll come across incredibly tactlessly but all those children that were encouraged with the baby bonus' all over the world not just the uk, who's going to employ them? I can't help but feel they were purposely bred to wipe the arses of the aging population, well what if they don't want to

pennycarbonara · 21/11/2016 16:03

Some governments are still actively encouraging people to have more kids, support the ageing population and so on, and seeing it in nationalistic rather than global population terms.

For example Italy: www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/05/italys-fertility-day-posters-sexist-echoes-of-fascist-past
Japan: www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/15/the-right-thing-to-do-japanese-city-to-offer-egg-freezing-on-public-purse

Some commentators have suggested that demographic transition will never reverse (like this which I saw on another thread: www.newscientist.com/article/mg23231001-400-the-world-in-2076-the-population-bomb-did-go-off-but-were-ok/ ) but some developed countries are increasing birth rate and pleased about it, like Germany www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/17/fertility-rate-germany-rises-33-year-high-births-children-population

Pisssssedofff · 21/11/2016 16:11

I just worry what they have planned for these children, the cynic in me maybe

pennycarbonara · 21/11/2016 16:32

I really don't think they have anything sinister intended. Politicians are mostly just interested in continuing busness as usual, getting re-elected in a few years time, and disregarding huge issues that might get in the way of life being just the same as it has been for the last few decades (automation, climate change, vast numbers of refugees, unstable financial systems...).

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