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To be worried about Daily Express and its Nostramdamus headline.

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passingstorm · 12/11/2016 12:30

I haven't read it all, but it came up on Facebook. Nostramdamus prophesied Trumps victory and now the world could end. Sick of all this doom and worry. Is it true?

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GinAndTunic · 12/11/2016 13:21

Thank you for the laugh, OP.

IamtheZombie · 12/11/2016 13:21

Zombies are real.

MiracletoCome · 12/11/2016 13:22

Ooh, Daily Express and Facebook in the OP, must be true then.

TrippyMcTrapFace · 12/11/2016 13:23

As a teenager in the 1970s I owned a book about Nostradamus. His writings were mostly garbled and vague.
His 'prophecies' are constantly being rewritten to suit whatever current event the media wants them to fit.

QueenLizIII · 12/11/2016 13:24

Ah here we are....

This was published as a prediction form Nostradamus.

Two steel birds will fall from the sky on the Metropolis / The sky will burn at forty-five degrees latitude / Fire approaches the great new city / Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps up / Within months, rivers will flow with blood / The undead will roam the earth for little time.

Remarkable: New York City (the "Metropolis"), lies at about 40 degrees north latitude.
Also remarkable is that steel was invented 200 years after Nostradamus died.

Another prediction of his published for the WTC was this:

"In the city of God there will be a great thunder? / Two brothers torn apart by Chaos while the fortress endures? / The great leader will succumb / The third big war will begin when the big city is burning?- Nostradamus 1654."

Again remarkable as Nostradmaus died in 1566.

What I find more worrying is people believing everything they read in a cheap tabloid.

LottieL · 12/11/2016 13:24

The Simpsons TV show ran an episode in 2001 (i believe) that had Trump as president. Coincidences happen, don't fret. The writers certainly aren't seers 🙂

EdmundCleverClogs · 12/11/2016 13:31

These predictions are easy to make. Every generation has had a tyrannical world leader (Hitler, Gaddafi, Rasputin etc), there have always been groups of angry people trying to disrupt world orders (Huns, IRA, ISIS). There will always be natural catastrophes (Pompeii, Hurricane Katrina) and man-made accidents (Chernobyl).

I could easily predict that there will be a rise of a far-right group in Europe within the next 50 years, destabilising the unity of the EU and Russia 'reclaiming' old territory. Do you know why? Because humanity never learns, and therefore doomed to repeat ourselves over and over again. The patterns are actually very easy to see if you look at history, add a bit of mumbo jumbo and suddenly you have amazing 'psychic powers'.

hesterton · 12/11/2016 13:32

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DesolateWaist · 12/11/2016 13:33

His predictions will not have been made in nice readable modern day English. They will have been translated from the original text and the translator then puts their bullshit spin on it.

noblegiraffe · 12/11/2016 13:36

Another prediction of his published for the WTC was this: in the City of God...

No, it wasn't. A quick google and Nostrodamus.org says that this was written in 1997.

As it turns out, the first four lines were indeed written before the attacks, but by a Canadian graduate student named Neil Marshall as part of a research paper in 1997. Ironically enough, the research paper included this poem as an illustrative example of how the validity of prophecies is often exaggerated. For example, the "City of God" (why is New York City the City of God?), "great thunder" (could apply to just about any disaster), "Two brothers" (lots of things come in pairs), and "the great leader will succumb" phrases are so ambiguous as to be meaningless. The fifth line was added by an anonymous Internet user, showing obvious alteration since Nostradamus wrote his Propheties in four-line verses called quatrains. Nostradamus also never actually referred to a "third big war".

www.nostradamus.org/bio.html

ego147 · 12/11/2016 13:41

The great thing about Daily Express predictions is they can make massive headlines about them but then ignore them when they don't happen.

If they do happen, then they can say they predicted it.

PaulDacresConscience · 12/11/2016 13:44

It's the Daily Express love. Next time you leaf through it, have a little spot of how many times the owner and his wife get a plug in it (one R. Desmond and his lovely wife Joy).

If they aren't writing about migrants, or Princess Di then it's the weather - either lava hot temperatures or killer snow fall Hmm

Mindfields · 12/11/2016 13:49

I thought it was that blind woman's predictions we were supposed to worrying about.

www.yahoo.com/news/heres-what-baba-vanga-predicted-for-2016-and-the-192833607.html?ref=gs

QueenLizIII · 12/11/2016 13:53

Another prediction of his published for the WTC was this: in the City of God...

No, it wasn't. A quick google and Nostrodamus.org says that this was written in 1997.

noblegiraffe did you read the rest of my sodding post? That was the point. We know is was faked. I remember sitting there days after it happened and there was a stupid nostradamus prediction about two brothers supposedly referring to the twin towers. I was there you know. I read the article in the paper that published that re the WTC. News papers will print any old shit for publicity and sensationalism.

It was in the papers as a prediction for the WTC by nostradamus and we knew very quickly it was fake. That was MY point that papers print shit all the time

Your quick googling isnt needed thank you Hmm

noblegiraffe · 12/11/2016 14:00

I did read your post, Liz but they appeared on a quick reading to be wowing about how prescient Nostrodamus was, especially the last one where I missed the year. Apologies.

Hopefully others will now also be clear that the specified prophesies are in fact big fat fakes.

VanillaSugarCandyCanes · 12/11/2016 14:05

I think you should believe it and spend the rest of your life in bed eating chocolate and avoiding the Daily Nazi Express.

VanillaSugarCandyCanes · 12/11/2016 14:05

Nasty. Not Nazi. Huge apologies all round. Damned phone Hmm

BewtySkoolDropowt · 12/11/2016 14:08

Liz it was absolutely clear that you were saying that the predictions were faked, no clarification necessary!

And for anyone still concerned about the Daily Express headline, they basically admitted that their 'worst winter' headlines were written because they sold papers.

This will be exactly the same. Sensationalist in order to encourage people to buy it above papers that stick to the real news.

ego147 · 12/11/2016 14:16

Love this headline.
What's missing is the fact that it's most Express readers who took a poll believed Boris should be PM Grin

To be worried about Daily Express and its Nostramdamus headline.
Yoksha · 12/11/2016 14:17

I was in a cult for 32yrs. I'm free now. Just some menta/emotional issues remain. They teach that Armageddon is just around the corner. They also believe that bible interpretation very much involves the USA as a world power.

I don't hold truck with anyone's batshit crazy prophecies. History is littered with those who claim to predict the future. Don't fret OP, just concentrate on the here & now. Live as best you can & diss the fear mongering. I wasted 32yrs of my life in fear. Please don't waste another minute on this matter.

Peregrina · 12/11/2016 14:24

Nasty. Not Nazi. Huge apologies all round. Damned phone

Wow, a phone with intelligence!

ItShouldHaveBeenJingleJess · 12/11/2016 14:53

vanilla Oh god, my sides hurt! Best Freudian typo ever!!!!!!

iklboo · 12/11/2016 14:55

Square peg, round hole. Let's hammer X situation into a vague Nostradamus 'prediction'

laylabelle · 12/11/2016 14:58

Didn't he say the world was going to end in the 90?! So how anything is still relevant who knows. Do love how 'accurate' his predictions come aftwr events have happened

SarcasmMode · 12/11/2016 15:02

Course not.

He's made hundreds of predictions of TEOTW and none have happened.
It's quite a sad state of affairs though!

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