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to think Trump winning takes the heat away from Brexit

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2Bottledup · 09/11/2016 10:47

I'm just wondering if Trump winning will mean that the focus is away from Brexit and maybe the pound will recover a bit and what is happening in the UK won't seem so bad.

I don't know anything about economics, etc so I'm wondering if this isn't a bad thing for the UK even in the short term. Can people please explain how they think it will affect the UK wrt Brexit.

Thanks.

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2Bottledup · 09/11/2016 13:56

Also, how do we heal what's happening within the UK and around the world? People seem to be so disenfranchised and disillusioned with their governments and these things are the result.

How do we fix it? Any ideas, or do you think it's past being fixed? Is this today's idea of a revolution? Or are people just fed up, and throwing their toys out of the pram (so to speak), without considering the consequences?

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Myrobalanna · 09/11/2016 13:58

No, it doesn't take the heat off Brexit. It's still a fucking stupid idea that's already cost us and will cost us more billions in the future. We've got idiots in charge who have to deliver a fantastically compex set of schemes with skill and diligence and expert knowledge, yet they have none of these requirements. The sums involved in finding the people who DO have the requirements could be better spent, I dare say.

In addition to that, a huge proportion of those voting for Brexit and voting for Trump are racist arses. If you're a Brexit/Trump voter and you feel you aren't: well, bully for you, but you lacked the integrity to stand apart from the racists so you're all Bernard Manning to me.

What's going to happen is that all those wankers who think they're cleverly getting one over on the shambles of the dying Left are simply going to ramp it up now there's a mandate from the US as well to lie to the public and not get held to account. Brilliant. What a world.

HeCantBeSerious · 09/11/2016 14:31

Myro is spot on.

2Bottledup · 09/11/2016 14:35

So, myra, how do we fix it? Or is it past fixing?

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HeCantBeSerious · 09/11/2016 14:40

Trouble is the majority of people who vote for Brexit/Trump etc won't change their minds no matter how clear the evidence. A small number will (hence Brexit in the balance).

So you either keep banging your head on a wall that's not going to listen, try to find ways to minimise the damage (activism) or wait for them to get their comeuppance and want help.

HappyCamel · 09/11/2016 14:41

I'm not in the U.K. but I think your economy will benefit from low interest rates and lower exchange rates.

If a Trump government lowers taxes for ordinary Americans then U.K. exporters will do really well.

HappyCamel · 09/11/2016 14:44

I think the U.K./US trade agreement negotiations are going to be interesting

HeCantBeSerious · 09/11/2016 14:46

I'd stick to whatever you do know about, Camel.

2Bottledup · 09/11/2016 14:50

On the one hand, Trump said he'd welcome a trade deal with the UK, but on the other he's said he'll protect USA workers' jobs by increasing import taxes and stopping them being undercut. Sounds contradictory to me, so which is true?

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2Bottledup · 09/11/2016 14:51

So hecan't, you don't think it's possible to try to heal the rifts in the UK?

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FarAwayHills · 09/11/2016 14:51

The Trump campaign seemed to copy the template of the Brexit campaign. There was little substance just constant repetition of the same mantra 'let's make America great again' and 'let's take our country back'. Let's see if the far right successfully adopt the same tactics in the upcoming French and German elections. There are so many things at play at the moment and it is the uncertainty that will cause the most damage to the UK

scaryteacher · 09/11/2016 15:00

Rebecca He thinks other countries should pay their required 2% and/or the US shouldn't pay the majority He's not wrong there is he? The US has been effectively bankrolling European defence since 1949; the Welsh summit was about getting European nations to stump up their 2%, and still they don't.

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