New £23k Benefit Cap.

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AIBU to ask if anyone still supports this?

Which families is this targeted at?

Anyone who will be affected, is it even feasible to not be pushed into debt?

Moving is not bad for your health!

Really? It is up there at the top of life's stressors. Buddy up...hilarious. Utter bollox.

Holloe
I think those shows are set up to show a distorted reality. Don't believe everything you see.

Oh dear oh dear.
Benefits tv is made up set up and guillible people fall for it. I think there maybe someone on this thread who knows the reality

We don't live anywhere near either side of the family. Sometimes I do feel a bit jealous of others who have lots of family help. But we could never afford to live where my dps family are. So you do the best you can.

www.disabledgo.com/blog/2016/11/ministers-set-to-force-work-related-activity-on-everyone-in-esa-support-group/

More fun and games for the disabled it looks like. Now those in the support group (the most of the ill) may now be forced to undergo 'work related activity' or face sanctions. I swear these bunch of cunts want everyone who is not loaded to disappear and die.

If I was made unemployed I wouldn't suddenly ditch my pets.

Buddy up

Funniest thing on mumsnet today... Wtf

Once again

www.gov.uk/jobseekers-allowance/overview

Hallo
Get a grip life is stress full. Moving is a normal part of life these days not a medical condition. Good grief!

engineer. You realise that moving is up there with bereavement and divorce with regards to life stresses? My mum is eighty. I don't want to leave her. But that makes me selfish in your book? So shall I just let the state care for her while I fuck off and pursue my own interests?

Mozfan
Why so funny? Not for everyone but for some could work well. I know its hard moving but it is really not impossibly. Granted it should be easier.

johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/2015/06/15/how-the-benefit-lies-begin-claimants-offered-cash-and-fame-to-say-they-dont-want-jobs/

From that link above:

The Department for Work and Pensions is considering forcing all sick and disabled people on out-of-work disability benefits to take part in “mandatory” activity, its new green paper has revealed.

The suggestion of compulsory activity is revealed in a single line of the 92-page work, health and disability green paper, published this week.

Such a change would mean that all people on out-of-work disability benefits – even those who are terminally-ill or have the very highest support needs – would have to stay in regular touch with their local jobcentre or risk having their benefits sanctioned.

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Let's read this part again::::::

Such a change would mean that all people on out-of-work disability benefits – even those who are terminally-ill or have the very highest support needs – would have to stay in regular touch with their local jobcentre or risk having their benefits sanctioned.

Even those who are terminally ill or have the very highest support needs......

How can ANYONE support this??

Jess
It part of normal life!

I worked all my life, in the public sector for the last 20 years. Because of government cuts to councils, the one I worked for has cut services and staff for several years now. I am 62, I was made redundant in March but thought my redundancy money would mean I could pay off my mortgage and allow me to work part time until I reach retirement age.

About the same time I was feeling tired and unwell but put it down to stress. Unfortunately it was bowel cancer, I needed immediate surgery and supplementary treatment.
I cannot bear to look back on the process I had to go through when I tried to find out about any support available.

The de-humanising process of telling absolute strangers in a public place all the gory, personal things about your illness, surgery and how you were managing. I was in HDU for two weeks but still had to attend an interview and explain what an ileostomy was. I was told I would receive £73 ESA per week but it would take a month to reach my account and the first weeks payment is disregarded.

In fairness, after three months my ESA increased to £416 per month and I am also in the support group; I never imagined this would be something I would be grateful for.

I am not feckless or a scrounger, I was just unlucky to be one of thousands who have lost their jobs through no fault of their own [and then get sick].

The governments own figures show 0.8% of benefit claims are fraudulent and by benefit they mean ALL benefits WTC/CB/Pensions etc.

6.4% is a conservative estimate of tax avoidance.
I truly cannot believe some of the views on here-hang your head and pray it never happens to you.

Engineersthumb your offensiveness and ignorance apparently knows no bounds

1 moving is one of the most stressful things a person will ever do, it's on a par with divorce and bereavement

2 I didn't even just say 'moving is bad for your health ' I said moving in THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES

A removes a support network causing financial and emotional stress
B places a family already under financial and emotional stress under MORE financial and emotional stress because without their support network they will struggle to cover childcare, especially when a child is ill, will feel isolated, unsupported and vilified (again) by the shit system.

And I speak as someone who as a military brat has moved a hell of a lot! The difference is with the military there is already a job, community, support systems in place BECAUSE they know it can cause stress which causes - can you guess? MENTAL ILL HEALTH!

Not my life, engineer. Abandoning my elderly mother to the care of the state doesn't feel 'normal' to me.

Golightlyhollie you view being poor as a crime? 'it shouldn't be allowed' bloody hell!

To get your info from one source with a clear and known agenda is just ridiculous anyone with any knowledge of critical thinking knows that's a really bad idea.

Because my school teachers used to use the phrase buddy up when talking about a group project. I've never heard someone say 'if you want to move house, buddy up'

A number of my friends sadly have had to move elderly parents to the town they live in. Where I live has cheap houses. Friends couldn't afford to live where parents did. But they needed more help. So had to move them.
I am not saying anyone should do this. Just saying some people already do this because they have to

Oh my God someone with cancer put in a work group..
This is disgusting inhuman and fucking terrible. Unbelievable I'm so sorry youve had to go through that.

Portia It looks like it's going to be standard soon....

Such a change would mean that all people on out-of-work disability benefits – even those who are terminally-ill or have the very highest support needs – would have to stay in regular touch with their local jobcentre or risk having their benefits sanctioned.

Growing, that's what the welfare state was created for. To catch people in their time of need i.e. Illness or short term following a job loss.

What it wasn't intended for is for parents that do not work or do the bare minimum and for many, carry on having children they won't support. It's not fraud, it's what past governments allowed to happen and there are many in society who play it to their full advantage.

Benefits provide a lifestyle about basic shelter, food and heat. Luxuries such as holidays, alcohol, non essential purposes should never have been catered for as there's no incentive to work when you can have all those things for doing nothing or the odd few hours.

Not unusual, though portia. The guy who had a heart attack two days before hisJobcentre appt and didn't receive his JSA because he hadn't officially 'signed on' is another example.

Yessssss, sheldon, you've already said all this. Guess I'll see you in Maui when my next giro comes through....