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To ask someone with accounting knowledge to please explain why this is the case?

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cinnamonfun · 26/10/2016 22:22

Thanks so much

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MrSlant · 26/10/2016 22:41

Immerse yourself in it then have a day off before. It will be FINE. Loving DRive and CRash as well as D EAD and C LIC, where were you guys when I was learning this stuff!

Smidge001 · 26/10/2016 22:43

We had accounting jokes about drinking too much. Credit stomach, debit pavement Blush

Re your question, during the course of the year you'll have already debited the BS by net profits, each time you make an entry (e.g. Credit revenue Debit debtors/cash). At the end of the year in your computer software we just need to move the current year p&l out of current year earnings (already shown within equity as a net credit) and move it into another equity account called retained earnings b/f. Therefore debit current year earnings to bring it to zero (ready for the new year's transactions) and debit b/f retained earnings.

I love T accounts. I still resort to them every now and then 20 years after doing my exams.

71HourAchmed · 26/10/2016 22:43

Good luck with the exams - hope they go well. Came on to answer, found everyone had already given you the correct answer! Drew a picture and everything Smile

Mirandawest · 26/10/2016 22:44

Is true that people want to get 100%. I did want to (never did obviously although wasn't too bad Grin)

If you have got any more questions I'm (relatively) happy to try and answer them for you - am an ACA support tutor for students doing their exams Smile

71HourAchmed · 26/10/2016 22:45

Ditto to those still using T accounts - still use them whenever I'm trying to work some complex accounting out (or when what the client has done doesn't make sense)

MrSlant · 26/10/2016 22:49

I'm only in my first year and stupidly excited that I helped someone else a tiny bit! I got my TB to balance perfectly in my exam (such a good feeling!) but ran out of time to perfect the extended TB question. No feedback either on the exam so I'll never know where the money went. I'm just going to suspect an employee was syphoning it off on the quiet Grin.

Mirandawest · 26/10/2016 22:54

Balancing is such a nice feeling Smile.

cinnamonfun · 26/10/2016 23:08

You are all amazing! Flowers Thank you so much!

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HeartsTrumpDiamonds · 26/10/2016 23:09

If you have a balance sheet that doesn't balance you just have.... a sheet.

I was all geared up to answer the OP and you all beat me to it! I love stuff like this. Miranda answered it better than I could have anyways.

must get job

YelloDraw · 27/10/2016 07:51

We had accounting jokes about drinking too much. Credit stomach, debit pavement

Oh I just actually LOL. Love accounting jokes. Such a looser.

My balance sheet balanced in my FA exam. Was very happy.

Mirandawest · 27/10/2016 08:51

Double entry is always good for amusement. And uncleared lodgements still make me giggle.

cinnamonfun · 29/10/2016 15:54

Just to say thanks again for all your help the other day, everyone. Can I be really annoying and ask another question? BlushSmile

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cinnamonfun · 29/10/2016 15:56

With regard to this question, I can understand why it would increase net profit (as any decreases in the trade receivables allowance balance are credited to IDE, thus reducing the expense and increasing net profit)... but wouldn't it also reduce current assets on the SoFP?

To ask someone with accounting knowledge to please explain why this is the case?
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peppatax · 29/10/2016 16:00

It would increase current assets as the allowance for receivables reduces net assets

peppatax · 29/10/2016 16:00

Reduces current assets, sorry!

Chippednailvarnishing · 29/10/2016 16:01

Agree with peppa

cinnamonfun · 29/10/2016 16:02

Thanks - yeah that's what I thought but in answers it says (D) net profit increases by 300.

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ClashCityRocker · 29/10/2016 16:06

Ah, the joy when the balance sheet balances in an exam...

I work in pure tax now, but it seems they've changed all the terminology...do p&l accounts and balance sheets not exist anymore? We still use them at our firm.

I vaguely remember when sitting my exams that 'inventories' was coming in for 'stock'....

ClashCityRocker · 29/10/2016 16:10

Surely it would have no effect on current assets - it would just be moving debtors (which I assume are receivables) to cash paid, so net assets would remain the same?

EllieFredrickson · 29/10/2016 16:12

Current assets would increase as the allowance for bad debts ( a credit) is reduced. If you like the recoverable amount is increasing. This increases net profit - Dr balance sheet Cr P&L. outs self as former accountancy tutor

ClashCityRocker · 29/10/2016 16:12

I mean, the double entry must be dr bank, cr receivables?

ClashCityRocker · 29/10/2016 16:14

Ah ellie I think I read the question differently.....I was thinking it was just debtors being reduced, rather than bad debts.

cinnamonfun · 29/10/2016 16:15

Ah I get it, so current assets would increase and net profit would increase as the expense would be reduced?

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EllieFredrickson · 29/10/2016 16:21

Cinnamon fun yes. Gosh I remember multiple choice question banks ....

HappyCamel · 29/10/2016 16:23

I'd
DR bad debt on BS
CR bad debt expense on IS

So increase in net assets