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To ask why people believe in ghosts and other supernatural nonsense?

291 replies

BowieFan · 23/10/2016 14:25

I just don't get it, I really don't.

There has been no scientific evidence of any genuine psychics or people who can contact the dead (and trust me, people have poured millions into trying to find genuine ones) and yet people still believe this rubbish. How do mediums still make money when it's obvious all they're doing is cold reading?

There's never been a single clear sighting of a ghost or any photographic proof of one.

I really feel sorry for the people who believe this nonsense - they must be lacking something that they feel they have to rely on something that doesn't exist to get answers in their life.

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mumsof4boys772 · 23/10/2016 20:47

Hang on a minute!!!!! BowieFan, you were the original poster I did not mention your son!!! I mentioned you!!!! so do not even go there!!!

I tried getting you to open up by asking if you had lost someone recently but never once had I mentioned your son, I mentioned you and the way you come across!!!!! having lost 3 people i the last year and having a father with terminal cancer I wanted to reach out to you!!!!

itsmine · 23/10/2016 20:47

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MrsWinklepicker · 23/10/2016 20:49

How come when people see ghosts, they are never naked? How on earth do their clothes pass over to the other side?

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 23/10/2016 20:49

Fine, I respect that you don't believe, but I find some of the comments from other posters on here are just downright nasty. As I said, by all means discourage someone from being conned by a medium but let them believe in ghosts, the afterlife etc. if it brings them comfort.

That's not directed at you personally OP.

mumsof4boys772 · 23/10/2016 20:49

Boundaries, having two children on the spectrum and working with children on the spectrum for years you get to know the characteristics. Goodness knows why you are offended when it was not even about you!

BowieFan · 23/10/2016 20:49

I never said you mentioned my son. I said you compared me to someone on the spectrum because I apparently lack social skills. I said I found that offensive because my son is on the spectrum himself and does not lack them. I found it offensive because you generalised autism.

Try reading.

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BowieFan · 23/10/2016 20:51

itsmine

If it comes across as goady then I apologise, it certainly wasn't my intention. If I could edit the title to change it, I would.

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mumsof4boys772 · 23/10/2016 20:51

Blarghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I give up!!!!!

BowieFan · 23/10/2016 20:52

mumsof4boys772

You do realise that just because you have children on the spectrum it doesn't make you qualified to generalise, right?

Anyway as I said, I have lost my sister this year and two very close friends. Still waiting to see what you have to say about that as clearly you expected me to say I've never lost anyone close.

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EnthusiasmDisturbed · 23/10/2016 20:53

I really feel sorry for the people who believe this nonsense - they must be lacking something that they feel they have to rely on something that doesn't exist to get answers in their life.

I am not sure why you feel people should respect your point of view when you post something so patronising

I don't believe but I do not feel people are lacking in something because they do

Boundaries · 23/10/2016 20:53

I'm not offended mum, I just challenge ridiculous generalisations where I see them.

GinAndTunic · 23/10/2016 20:54

Yep.

Plus the offensive stereoptypes bit.

Revealall · 23/10/2016 21:00

I think people believe because so much weird stuff happens in life. Stuff that makes no sense in our logical well ordered lives.
Stands to reason some people believe something "other" is going on.

I have had a tarot reading ( first and only) that was spot on. It couldn't be cold reading because it was about a specific ( unknown at the time) event in the future. I got timings and a spot on description. It was all written down too so not like I could misinterpret anything or recall it differently. I have an open mind now.

mumsof4boys772 · 23/10/2016 21:01

BowieFan , I was actually waiting for you to say you have lost someone actually and this is why you are questioning it, Do not worry, I done the same when I lost my mother last year, on the bereavement board actually and like I say I have lost 3 people this year and my father that has terminal cancer who is holding on.

It is ok to question we all do it after all its heartbreaking losing people you love and they do not send you any signs to show you they are still around. Its hard but as each day,week,month goes bye it will get a little easier, people are on here if you want to chat xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Dontpanicpyke · 23/10/2016 21:02

I think this thread is going nowhere and will hurt more people than help.

mumsof4boys772 · 23/10/2016 21:04

GinAndTunic and Boundaries are you saying Autistic children do not have socail communication problems? are you saying that people on the Autistic spectrum do not dominate conversations? are you saying people on the Autistic spectrum do not speak so honestly they could cut you in two with theyre words? I personally think someone is out for an argument tonight and its not me, I personally am trying to help someone who is grieving. after losing 3 relatives this year I want to help! you on the other hand!!!!

Revealall · 23/10/2016 21:08

FFS how has another thread been detrailed with arguing over SN children?

Can people remember that you can be wrong/ bad/ misjudged in one aspect but right/good/accurate in many other capacities.

SarcasmMode · 23/10/2016 21:13

roundamdround has said exactly as I feel.

I don't believe in ghosts, the devil, God etc and many odd things may just not have a scientific basis yet.

I don't judge others who want to believe it though. What's wrong with letting someone believe something that comforts them?

I do think aliens are a possibility though but not as we imagine them. Maybe amoeba type things, insect like or silicon based life but it stands to reason we aren't the only 'living' thing.

Boundaries · 23/10/2016 21:14

Autistic children do not have socail communication problems? are you saying that people on the Autistic spectrum do not dominate conversations? are you saying people on the Autistic spectrum do not speak so honestly they could cut you in two with theyre words?

Some children with autism are like this, yes. Some. Others are completely non verbal. Others speak entirely with echolalia. Some can't talk to anyone except close family members. Others talk to anyone. I could go on.

That's why generalising is a bad idea.

BowieFan · 23/10/2016 21:15

Blame mum she was the one who derailed it onto that. People rightly told her she was being offensive.

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Boundaries · 23/10/2016 21:15

Apologies for derailing. I don't like not challenging this stuff.

BowieFan · 23/10/2016 21:17

Secretmetalfan

I'm not narrow minded at all. It's just on this it baffles me how otherwise rational people (including some atheists I know and surgeons, people like that) can believe ghosts are real. I just don't get it.

Not trying to start a fight either but I'm glad you clearly know everything about me after 30 seconds (are you one of those 'psychics' too?).

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BowieFan · 23/10/2016 21:18

Don't worry Boundaries you were completely right to do so. I am shocked she actually compared us to people on the spectrum (not that it's a bad thing) or that she genuinely thinks all autistic people struggle with social interaction. Has she heard of high-functioning people?

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GinAndTunic · 23/10/2016 21:19

Boundaries, don't apologise. Offensive stereotypes should always be challenged.

Dontpanicpyke · 23/10/2016 21:50

But maybe your surgeon friends have seen a ghost?

If you belive you have seen something why would you then pretend you hadn't just to please someone like you op?