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Ouija board

118 replies

thegoodnameshadgone · 22/10/2016 23:16

Has anyone done a ouija bored? I haven't. My partner has. Scares the shot out of me. Is it real?

For me it's like crack. Never do, go near, touch, etc etc

OP posts:
KidLorneRoll · 23/10/2016 10:02

They are mass produced bits of cardboard made in a factory.

They are as dangerous and spooky as a monopoly board.

TirednessIsComing · 23/10/2016 10:06

I think LegoCaltrops summed it up perfectly for me. Does your partner want you to do it?

MrsBruceBogtrotter · 23/10/2016 10:14

'I can't believe an adult would be stupid enough to do this with kids.'

Do what? Play a game invented by a toy company? Would you be equally aghast at them playing Monopoly?

woodhill · 23/10/2016 11:19

It's more than that and very sinister. Why would you tap into the occult. I've heard so many things over the years.

Mum encouraging this is very irresponsible and it's nothing like monop.

Even if it is psychological, why do it.

TheMagicFarawaySleep · 23/10/2016 11:20

Honey bee - my apologies. Could you please tell me where in the DSM this is? My ex-colleagues will be agog when I tell them.

TheMagicFarawaySleep · 23/10/2016 11:25

Honey - just to check, Ouija specifically or as a response to fright causing a peak in neurotransmitter activity in an already psychiatrically fragile individual?

CaptainMarvelDanvers · 23/10/2016 11:31

I have one, I can't even get a ideomotor response.

Hasbro sell them. They're toys which at best can make you subconsciously move the planchette.

I think it would be cool to interact with your subconscious, it just hasn't happened for me yet.

heygotanygrapes · 23/10/2016 11:33

My understanding is that its a game, thats why its in the game section of retail places. Same as tarot cards.

SlinkyVagabond · 23/10/2016 11:35

You might as well turn the lights off and piss about with a Monopoly board.
Grin
It's bollox.

MadameCholetsDirtySecret · 23/10/2016 11:37

It's a load of old nonsense.

Mindtrope · 23/10/2016 13:29

ClopySow what do you fear may happen?

Hedgehog80 · 23/10/2016 13:38

Themagicfarawaysleep can steroids call psychosis ? This interests me as dd1 currently being weaned off steroids after a horrific reaction to them where her mh was seriously affected.
I have severe issues and after watching a couple of horror films aged 13 (suggested by dm???!) I was very very ill and I know now that I absolutely cannot watch certain things or I will get very unwell so I'm wondering if somehow this underlying issue is genetic and triggered for me by horror/fear and for dd obviously with medication

Sorry for derail btw!

Tliev · 23/10/2016 13:49

Grown adults talking about summoning spirits and white witches etc! 😂

BowieFan · 23/10/2016 14:15

I wouldn't use one again but only because the last time I did it scared me. I know it was nothing to do with supernatural spirits but we got ourselves into a state of mind where a creaky floorboard would be terrifying. It's just psychological. We did chuck our Ouija board out though and it kept turning up back in the house but I think that was my mum because she didn't like us chucking games away Grin

BowieFan · 23/10/2016 14:17

ClopySow

I'm actually more worried that they let people who believe in this shit have kids. I'd much rather have a parent who sees it as a bit of fun than one who treats a bit of cardboard as a portal to hell (which also doesn't exist).

It worries me that there are people who genuinely think Ouija boards are supernatural! They're not - they've been proven in several studies to be a load of tosh.

BowieFan · 23/10/2016 14:22

Aeroflotgirl

Fucking hell. I hope you're joking.

If not, please for the sake of humanity do not pass this bullshit mumbo-jumbo onto your kids. Your friend is not a white witch, she is a moron.

tiredandirritated · 23/10/2016 14:25

I like all things occult and Wiccan.

But I like the aesthetic, I don't believe in anything spooky.

I have a ouija board and have attempted to use it many a time purely out of curiosity and it does absolutely nothing, it's just cardboard and a piece of wood it does absolutely nothing whatsoever. Ghosts/spirits don't exist full stop.

Happyhippy45 · 23/10/2016 14:25

To all the folk saying it's bollocks, have you ever tried it?
I don't particularly think it's ghosts. We did it as teens and supposedly our brains are more capable at that age to be subconsciously doing things.
It also doesn't work for everyone.
We did it thinking it wouldn't work.
.......scared us shitless.
I'd never do it again.

Aeroflotgirl · 23/10/2016 14:30

bowie just because you think it's rubbish does not mean it is. Very narrow minded springs to mind. What's that got to do with my kids, we don't really talk about paranormal.

ShebaShimmyShake · 23/10/2016 14:36

I have a friend who fucked with his mates by pushing the glass while swearing he wasn't moving it, of course. He thought they'd twig when the presence said it was off for a drink of spirits, but no.

Ideomotor movement can easily be powerful enough to send the planchette flying, especially when the person doing it is in a highly suggestible state.

TheMagicFarawaySleep · 23/10/2016 14:47

Hedgehog - Steroids can have a huge impact on mental health, yes. And coming off of them, there is bound to be an impact on mood etc because these drugs impact the brain as well as the body. Hence why body-builders can become aggressive, paranoid, suspicious when using steroids. If that mindset carries on, then yep, psychosis can develop.

Whether vulnerability to MH issues is genetic or not, no one is 100% sure. Researchers think they've isolated the schizophrenia gene for example, but even if all MH issues are genetic, it doesn't follow that all kids will develop them. There usually needs to be a combination of factors to "flick" the genetic switch.

So watching a film could be an environmental factor, if you mixed that with say a long period of stress, poor sleep, physical illness AND genes, plus the hormones of puberty, then it could seem as if the fear from a film (or Ouija board) caused it, but it's more likely to be a combination of factors. People with MH issues can often expose themselves to "dark" films, books etc, as it reflects their mood. Still doesn't mean the film caused it in isolation.

Apart from drugs, both legal and illegal, I have never known a person to develop MH issues from one activity. Ever.

Anyway, huge apologies for the derail, but felt bad not giving a full answer.

HoneyBeeMum1 · 23/10/2016 15:08

Quite MagicFarawaySleep.

As I said in my first post, use of an Ouija Board by an individual with latent psychosis can - and in some cases has - triggered acute psychosis in cases when the individual perceived the Ouija board to have supernatural power. It does not have to be genuine power, the individual's perception is enough.

I am sure (and certainly hope) your former colleagues are aware - even if you are not - that DSM is a diagnostic tool and not specific to particular triggers, so I fail to see the relevance of your reference to DSM.

TheMagicFarawaySleep · 23/10/2016 18:19

Honey - because the type of psychosis is normally named. I was wondering what it's name was. I'm well aware what the DSM is, but I really don't have any interest in discussing it anymore.

I apologise if you thought I was mocking you in some way, but I wasn't, I was genuinely interested as I hadn't heard of it. I wondered if you were joking, hence me wondering if I was being gullible. I actually found it fascinating, and wondered why my colleagues had never told me about it. They know I'm a wimp around anything supernatural, so I thought they'd have told me to spook me - as they used to with the ward ghost.

I really don't know why your tone has been so snarky towards me, unless you thought I was ridiculing (spelling?). I wasn't, and I haven't appreciated your unfriendly tone. Hopefully, it's a misunderstanding.

SarcasmMode · 23/10/2016 18:40

Like I've said previously I don't believe in any supernatural related things although I do find the study of it fascinating just like criminal psychology is fascinating to me and fictional books.

However I think it's the epitome of fucking rude to tell someone they are a moron, idiot etc for believing something. Yes they may well be wrong but honestly if something frightening happened to someone and that's what they feel happened, isn't just being nasty like that make you a bit of a bell end? I think so.

It's not a good idea to pass these ideas onto their children but hopefully they will just tell their child this is what they believe and they'd rather they didn't do it in their house I don't see any problem with that.

But outright insulting someone for their beliefs is just vile. Live and let live, no?

TheMagicFarawaySleep · 23/10/2016 18:51

Sarcasm - I agree. No one really knows what's out there, so the name calling makes people seem quite intolerant and close-minded.

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