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AIBU?

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to put some distance between best friend and I?

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CurrySauce · 19/10/2016 16:55

Have NC just because if friend happened to come across it I wouldn't want her to find my posting history on here.

Friend and I have been close for a long time- sometimes location/ life/ work have got in the way over the years but we have always stayed in touch and at least remained close over text if we can't meet in person.

Earlier in the year, I became involved with a guy and we are now in a relationship, this happened around the same time as the breakdown of her relationship with her boyfriend of four years. She has taken the breakup surprisingly well, although obviously has had times where she is angry/ confused/ upset as the reasoning for the breakup didn't make sense and he has been an arse about it.

I (and my boyfriend) who she gets on well with, have made a conscious effort to be there for her over the past couple of months- making sure she knew she was welcome to join us when we went out (they live in the same hometown, i travel there to see him) so that she didn't have to be at home alone if she didn't want to. I have given her lifts to a few places as she doesn't drive and her bf used to drive her everywhere, and had phonecalls from her when she has been drunk and a bit crazy (turning up outside his house at stupid oclock etc) which I have been getting a bit fed up with but I take the time to listen and be kind as I know breaking up from a long-term relationship throws your whole life into disorder until you are able to stop hurting and get used to new routines etc.

I don't mind doing any of this- she is one of my oldest and best friends and whilst I am really happy atm I am careful not to shout too loud about it and be insensitive. She doesn't seem to afford me the same courtesy though.

She is horrible about my relationship- she mocks and badmouths my partner and twists things I have said about him to make him out to be awful- he is not. When asking me about him, she refers to him as "prick" ie. "Is prick in the pub tonight?" "What are you and prick up to? I fancy going out if you are out" etc. I try not to make a big deal of this and will reply with "I assume you are referring to DBf" and leave it there then answer her question, but it fucking grates on me.

She openly mocks/ disapproves of how we choose to spend our time together- slags of the places we socialise in, calls him to the lowest because in 10 months of going out he has never taken me out for a posh meal or away for the weekend or similar. I don't want this, we spend our time together doing things we both find enjoyable- concerts, watching sport, going for walks, the beach. I have never been impressed by people who "splash the cash" for dates and I don't feel like I'm missing out but she seems to think it shows he's not a man because he doesn't "treat me". I couldn't give a fuck, I'd rather go dutch on a bag of chips and a few drinks than sit awkwardly over a table not knowing what to say/do because neither of us would feel at ease in that environment. She thinks our relationship is a big joke and has said as much.

She seems to want to involve herself in my relationship. I'm not sure if it's because she has nothing better to focus on at the minute but she will do childish things like speak to him "on my behalf" despite me not asking her to (why would I?). Then say "you're welcome" if she finds out some piece of information she thinks I'd be interested in, as if she's done me a favour. We are almost 30- I don't need my friend to play middle man in my relationship, especially since most of what she says seems to be what she thinks and nothing really to do with me. I was annoyed at him for even entertaining it at the time but I think he was pretty shocked and sh is very forward/ pushy. This has caused friction between boyfriend and I as she will hold onto information for weeks, then throw a twisted version of it into conversation later on and I can see no other reason why she would do this other than to cause trouble.

I have another very old male friend. I have known him longer than her and he has drifted in and out of my life for about 15 years. On two or three occasions we have let our relationship become more than a friendship, but it never works out and causes tension which results in us not speaking for months on end. When I mentioned he had recently been back in touch with me she basically instructed me that I must ignore him because he would "fuck everything up" and basically implied that I was so weak that if I didn't stop talking to him immediately i would end up back in his arms and throwing away my current relationship for him. When I told her nothing could be further from the truth, that I love my boyfriend and any old fleeting feelings I had for my friend were no longer there, she just smirked and said "we'll see". I am pissed off that she thinks I am so weak and fickle that I would jeopardise what I have at the drop of a hat.

DBf and I have discussed moving in together- she has basically shit all over this idea, apparently he is a waste of space who is no good for me or my son and she "has concerns" and "doesn't like the idea at all". My boyfriend is a sensible guy, he has a decent, steady job, is very good with my son and has never been anything but kind to both of us and happy to take things at my pace. There is no truth to what she is saying and to be honest I think she is bitter that her relationship of four years never really moved forward in the same way. Again, what pisses me off is her "concern" for my son and the implication that I am running into this blindly without even thinking of him, as if I need her to tell me what I should be doing as a parent.

To be honest, when she was happy and involved with her boyfriend, she very rarely made time for me, she has never once visited me at or near my home even though I was alone with no partner for years and a young son, I still had to travel to her. Less effort was made by her in general to arrange meetups etc and now I feel like I see her more often because she has no-one else to spend her time with.

AIBU to want to put some distance between us? Especially now that I'll be moving much nearer to her- I don't want a third person in my relationship and I don't want her thinking it's ok to be so awful to my partner when he has been nothing but kind to her.

I have tried to tell her I'm fed up with defending my relationship to her/ unhappy with how she speaks about DBf but she just says it's in her nature to be protective and that's what she's doing. She doesn't take any sort of criticism on board from anyone.

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Arfarfanarf · 19/10/2016 18:11

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Mysecretgarden · 19/10/2016 18:14

She wants your unique and undivided attention.

myownprivateidaho · 19/10/2016 18:22

Oh my god, on these threads I always advocate for giving the friend a second chance and seeing it from their perspective. But she is just behaving really badly. Ok she's hurting but she shouldn't be talking or acting how she is. Yes, distance. How sad.

CurrySauce · 20/10/2016 20:54

I'd make sure to tell your bf about the other guy, and that there's nothing between you any more. It wouldn't surprise me if she "let it slip" about him contacting you, and made it out to be something it wasn't.

Thankfully, boyfriend and I are very open with each other and use each others phones etc. regularly. He asked who X was and I was honest- an old friend who I sometimes had a casual relationship with if we were both single. Now that you've said it though, I wouldn't put it past her to try and shit stir as this is exactly what she tried to do in the past- twisted something innocent he said in my absence and then relayed it back to me later.

acatcalledjohn You're right, I should ask her why she finds it acceptable to do this, but I'm not usually a total pushover and have commented directly about it before- saying I'm fed up defending my relationship and my partner when there is nothing to defend. She just repeats that she is very protective and doesn't take on board that she might be in the wrong.

I don't see why she started to pick on me like this, she never used to behave like this towards me and I can't believe things would change this much just because I'm in a relationship.

Thanks all for replies, I try to see the absolute best in people and sometimes find it hard to just admit that someone is being nasty for no good reason.

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Aeroflotgirl · 20/10/2016 20:58

So what are you going to do curry

CurrySauce · 20/10/2016 21:16

I'm not sure Aero, she has been quieter since I pulled her up the other day, I'm not sure whether to leave it there and see if things improve once she's had time to move on from her own relationship, or whether just to tell her to fuck off the next time she tries to speak to me.

Tbh I feel like I want to tell her to fuck off, but it's not in my nature to be so blunt/ cut people out like that.

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Aeroflotgirl · 20/10/2016 21:27

You have to if you want your relationship with your dp to work. From where we're sitting, she does not sound very nice!

Cherrysoup · 20/10/2016 21:34

She is deliberately trying to interfere and break up your relationship. There is no way to be nice about this, she's a complete fucking bitch. I don't know why you entertain her at all.

Drbint · 20/10/2016 21:38

Next time she calls your boyfriend ''prick", tell her to watch her mouth or shut the fuck up. While you're at it, you might want to tell her to get the fuck out of your life because you're fed up of her spiteful shit and don't want to see her again.

Trust me, you'll feel better for it.

CurrySauce · 20/10/2016 22:47

If she makes any more of her snide remarks or tries to stick her oar in I'll tell her to fuck off. Hopefully she's just sore from her own break up and if I hold off on making any effort to see her it might calm down.

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user1471524661 · 20/10/2016 23:02

She sounds like someone I used to call a friend. Life is too short for toxic people like her. Walk away, wait for her to chase and explain politely everything you have said in your post. Concentrate on your BF.

BerylStreep · 20/10/2016 23:07

I would be slowly distancing myself from her anyway (before you tell her to fuck off).

FluffyFluffster · 20/10/2016 23:10

Just one question - do you have another person close to you who would be honest enough to verify her dislike of him as being false? When I was in a bad relationship, I pushed my friends away because I refused to see it and they clearly disliked him. Sometimes love truly is blind.

It generally sounds like you have a good relationship and she is sour for some unknown reason however just on the off chance she seeing something you don't maybe you could chat with someone else?

acatcalledjohn · 20/10/2016 23:17

She just repeats that she is very protective and doesn't take on board that she might be in the wrong.

In that case she's had her chance. Being 'protective' is just a vague answer to hide her jealousy and an attempt at appearing noble.

CurrySauce · 20/10/2016 23:35

Fluffy

I know what you mean, I've been in two horrible, abusive relationships in the past where I did just that- excused their behaviour and shut people out/hid things about the relationship just so that friends would stop being 'nasty' about my partner at the time.

She is the only close friend I have who knows him and knows us as a couple so I don't have any other outside perspective I suppose.

However I've grown alot since those other relationships and have had therapy to deal with the aftermath- I know that when I was in those relationships I never felt happy or at ease the way I do now. I think I have come far enough that I'd recognise if I was being treated badly and she can't seem to give me any good reasons for why she hates him so much.

If she was giving me a list of awful behaviour she'd witnessed or heard about I could understand it, but she so far doesn't seem to have any.

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ElizabethHoney · 20/10/2016 23:40

YANBU and she's being selfish.

But I suspect she's taking her unhappiness out on you and doesn't realize what a cow she's being -doesn't excuse it, but means it might be worth the potential awkwardness of a conversation.

Point out to her how rude she's being, and the effort you're making to be supportive, compared to her lack of support lately and previously. Not in a combative way, but in a "I care about you, but this behaviour is spoiling our friendship" kind of way.

Maybe nothing changes, in which case you can dump her without a moment's hesitation. Maybe she'll listen, be genuinely sorry, and genuinely try to be a better friend.

WombOfOnesOwn · 21/10/2016 02:54

I suspect your friend has a crush on YOU.

FluffyFluffster · 21/10/2016 02:54

Why does no one else in your life know him or you two as a couple? Is it because it's long distance? It sounds a wee bit isolated so maybe it's time to work on that with him and start introducing him to the people in your life.

She appears to have no genuine reason so I'd just get up and leave every time she says something derogatory. She'll either get the message or it will get to a point where you stop making effort with her. Personally, I don't really care if people don't like each other but if I'm in the middle, I don't want to hear about it!

CurrySauce · 21/10/2016 06:09

Womb Grin I'm sure that's not the case... She never tries to get me out on my own or acts particularly warm towards me. She only dates Chinese/Japanese guys and I'm neither!

Fluffy She is one of two close friends I have- the other lives at the other end of the country so hasn't met him yet. From what I've told her about him/us she seems happy for me and I tell her the same things I tell the first friend.
I live in the middle of nowhere but go to uni in his town. He has been down to meet my family a few times and has met several of my other friends. I've spent lots of time with his parents and his friends and work colleagues too but when we go out as a couple she has been there the most purely because we were trying to look out for her.

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Cucumber5 · 21/10/2016 06:38

I probably would give her an ultimatum (by text or in person). Saying you understand she's had a very difficult time recently but you won't tolerate her bad mouthing or shirt stirring in your relationship. Then when ever she causes trouble, don't contact her for a month or so.

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