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Does anonyminity within the law work in the 21st century?

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Soubriquet · 18/10/2016 14:41

With social media and the Internet a click away, is it as easy to keep things quiet about certain cases than it used to be?

I don't think it is.

Whilst it remains illegal and sometimes, like in rape cases it should remain so, I dont think it's as easy any more.

I'm not advocating naming people before you start to shout me down, I just think the law needs to keep up with the 21st century and maybe find a new way to do it

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BeyondReasonablyDoubts · 18/10/2016 14:47

I agree. Thinking of the super injunction relatively recently (Elton John?) where it was able to be reported in Scotland, and as such could in theory only be discussed on mn by Scottish mners, so long as eng/Welsh/NI didn't read it. Nor non-Scottish HQ. Which of course didn't happen Grin
And everyone knew who it was about.

I don't know what else can be done about e.g. Rape victims though :(

Soubriquet · 18/10/2016 14:50

No I don't know the solution either and I worry there isn't one

Not just rape victims who need their identity concealed.

But children from abuse cases and the like

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Sparklesilverglitter · 18/10/2016 14:50

I think with how advanced media is these days it's not easy to keep identity of a case secret, and it media is only going to advance more and more.

Of course an abuse/rape victim and such like should never be named but it really is a fight to keep it secret I think

BeyondReasonablyDoubts · 18/10/2016 16:41

Having seen a thread about the "youngest double murder couple", it just took me about sixty seconds to find their names. Research purposes y'know, for this thread.

Perhaps it might be easier to change (rather mamouth task!) the rest of society so anonymity isn't needed, than it is to stop the exponential growth of the internet?

Soubriquet · 18/10/2016 16:47

I think changing society is impossible..

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BeyondReasonablyDoubts · 18/10/2016 16:49

Me too - I'd just rate slowing down the Internet as more impossible, right now!

Alfieisnoisy · 18/10/2016 16:50

I think that the law needs applying personally. On a thread about the "youngest killer couple" a poster added a very identifying link which made it all too easy to work out who the girl was. I honestly think that MNHQ need to give information like that to the police so that posters stupid and ignorant enough to break the law in this way are prosecuted...as they should be. Maybe then anonymity might work.

Soubriquet · 18/10/2016 16:52

I think as long as we have the Internet and people willing to talk, total anonyminity is never going to happen

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Soubriquet · 18/10/2016 16:53

But saying that Alfie that link (if I saw the right one) was a major newspaper. So not breaking the law as such by sharing that.

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BeyondReasonablyDoubts · 18/10/2016 17:23

Yeah I saw that link too Alfie. And I agree (I think) that a site shouldn't have to just take it down, it should be accounotable in some way. Yes it was a newspaper story, but I don't think there was anything linking it to the actual crime

Though I do often share when I am aware of something along the lines of Ryan giggs superinjunctions, so I guess I'm saying i should be prosecuted! Need to have a think about that Grin

Perhaps the 'difference' (in my head anyway) is with the vulnerability of a child victim/offfender versus some jammy celeb trying to silence the same media it courts. Or I'm a big hypocrite!

BeyondReasonablyDoubts · 18/10/2016 17:24

That is, it was the poster showing it was linked to the murder, not the newspaper stating it

Soubriquet · 18/10/2016 17:25

A hypocrite probably Grin

Whether we agree or not, anonyminity is that.

You can't pick and choose

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Soubriquet · 18/10/2016 18:47

I think mn is proving tonight that anonyminity is just a word in some cases

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BeyondReasonablyDoubts · 18/10/2016 18:49

Still the murder case? I'm avoiding it

Soubriquet · 18/10/2016 18:51

That's the one that's proving anonyminity doesn't work but I am querying about in general

Another example of course could be the Ched Evans case.

The victim was not allowed to be named. Yet her name slipped out. Why?

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BeyondReasonablyDoubts · 18/10/2016 18:57

Because people love a witch hunt :(

Soubriquet · 18/10/2016 18:58

That's probably the crux of it yes.

Shit stirring without getting their own hands dirty knowing that others will act on it

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