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Brexit now affecting supermarkets?

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e1y1 · 13/10/2016 01:23

Tesco has dropped all 200 of Unilever's brands from store shelves, over a dispute over pricing.

Unilever is blaming Brexit as the reason for wanting a 10% price increase for supply of it's products.

Whereas, MPs are saying Unilever are just using Brexit as a smokescreen to raise prices.

Unilever own some of the biggest brands in the UK - Persil, PG Tips, Dove, Hellmans etc.

And with Tesco's being the UKs biggest supermarket chain, this can't be good (other supermarkets have also said they would drop the brands as opposed to absorbing a price hike).

Do you think Brexit is really now affecting our supermarket shelves?

Sorry for the source (but would imagine it's in others too as heard it on the radio) HERE

OP posts:
Oysterbabe · 13/10/2016 10:48

I guess I should make more of an effort with the allotment next year rather than growing dandelions and the odd courgette.

twofingerstoGideon · 13/10/2016 10:50

I am genuinely surprised by the incredibly strong feeling people have about this
Really? When the repercussions negatively impact on so many?

ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe · 13/10/2016 10:52

Of course Clark, start thinking of a name for it.

Freedom from what exactly, Elements?

EllyMayClampett · 13/10/2016 10:52

I'd actually welcome a wage price spiral.

ClarkL · 13/10/2016 10:54

I believe many people are plunged into poverty for a variety of reasons.
Large companies avoiding tax
The benefits system (and the entitled culture)
Illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan
EU Grants to businesses to move out of the UK

As I said before, when there was a price war on milk between supermarkets and farmers and it was discussed cheap imports were blamed...or does the farmers poverty not count?

MrsGwyn · 13/10/2016 10:58

If the immigrant workers were being paid the national minimum wage why would the wage bill go up if you substituted British workers

No we saying that it's unlikely that they will get British labour to do the field work - so the crops will rot and what is taken in will be more expensive

State of Georgia USA passed the toughest anti-illegal immigration statute in the country and then found 12 months later had nowhere near enough labour for harvest and crops were left to rot and farmers went out of business and price of crops went up.

I think university students used in back in the old days fruit pick - but since then the the growing season has been extended and they aren't around when needed and increasingly they find they need to take unpaid internships in holidays to stand out once they graduate.

There isn't a pool of UK labour in areas needed at time needed who can afford to work at the minimum wage for part of a year - that's why they turned to EU labour - they come over can get by with min wage and don't mind short term basic accommodation.

JellyBelli · 13/10/2016 10:58

ClarkL
I believe many people are plunged into poverty for a variety of reasons.
The benefits system (and the entitled culture)

Go read about life for poor people before benefits were introduced. Look at what life is like for disabled people now before you whine about entitlement.

SleepFreeZone · 13/10/2016 10:59

On the subject of blame, what happened to blaming the bankers?! 🤔

ClarkL · 13/10/2016 10:59

As for democratic discussions, I agree they should take place. What should not take place is finger pointing and "it's his fault"
Nothing is achieved by blaming someone.
17 million voted to leave, 16 million to stay.
Why do people want to stay, Why do people want to leave - So far the majority of the arguments I have heard from those wanting to remain are all linked to the economy. It is worrying....but I also look at Greece and other countries who have been ruined by the euro and Europe and am incredibly grateful we kept our currency. My belief is even if we stayed in the euro our economy would crash sooner or later, Brexit has simply meant it will crash sooner. Regardless of the vote outcome - people should have been braced for a crash.

MrsGwyn · 13/10/2016 11:00

there will be imported inflation with the weak pound. But every cloud has a silver lining and hopefully our exports will become more competitive - that could boost GDP.

That is the upside to the weak pound - however at the supermarket till when I come to pay this won't help me.

Musicinthe00ssucks · 13/10/2016 11:00

Yes, the pound is low against the dollar but still much higher against the euro than 07/08. No brexit vote then. The euro is also unstable
THIS! I got married in Ireland in 2009 and remember watching at the pound and euro were practically 1for1.

BuntyFigglesworthSpiffington · 13/10/2016 11:00

British workers do not want to pick strawberries in the fields. Eastern Europeans are the only people willing to do these jobs.

Gowgirl · 13/10/2016 11:00

Well they've capped the income support, maybe we should cut pensions next the poor and the old will starve and there will be enough spuds for everyone else......
I don't think the tower is big enough for all the whingers? But as a lot of us are all ready in or near London it wont cost much in fuel to transport themGrin

madparent1 · 13/10/2016 11:02

The big cheese at Tesco used to work at Unilever. Companies lock horns all the time. That's business.

Brexit is just the latest scapegoat. Everyone will use it as an excuse for just about everything while they can. Mostly by governments and big business to make even more money at the expense of the already poor and struggling.

Same shit, different excuse.

Scot2Be · 13/10/2016 11:02

"if we stayed in the euro our economy would crash sooner or later, Brexit has simply meant it will crash sooner. Regardless of the vote outcome - people should have been braced for a crash." Evidence please? Any?

ErrolTheDragon · 13/10/2016 11:03

I'd actually welcome a wage price spiral.

Why?Confused Who on earth does that help?

MrsGwyn · 13/10/2016 11:03

Most thing like oil and gas are traded in dollars. US dollars are the unofficial world currency a lot of thing are traded in dollars.

A poster above said part of this issue with these two companies is that the deal was done in dollars.

Zigzigsputnik76 · 13/10/2016 11:05

Tesco are being a pain in the arse with this. When I go shopping I want the shelves to be full of the goods I want to buy. If they have gone up in price then so be it. As the pound falls this was always going to happen. The holiday I went on this year is £150 dearer next year due to the rise in hotel prices and the exchange rate 35 cents to the euro lower than it was 2 years ago. It's the price we all have to pay for the perceived weakness of the UK economy moving foreard

UnderTheGreenwoodTree · 13/10/2016 11:08

I am genuinely surprised by the incredibly strong feeling people have about this - yes it's good people have an opinion and that they are concerned about the country they live in. The way however some remain voters are now handling themselves is not ok.

Of course people feel strongly - this will affect their lives.

We knew this would happen, we were warned. The Remain campaign said it over and over again. Yet, in a tornado of nationalism to 'get our country back' Leavers ignored it all. Dismissed experts, dismissed everything as Project Fear.

Well project fear is becoming project reality now. This is just the beginning. Hate to say we told you so.

Dontpanicpyke · 13/10/2016 11:09

Think MadParent has it spot on.

No one apparently saw the last recession coming so makes me chuckle to see economists and idiots like old Clegg with the doom and gloom every bloody day of the week.

Might as well have 3 old witches round a pot reciting 'toil and trouble' no one has a clue if Brexit will be curtains or the next thing we ever did. Most probably a bit inbetween just like life.

Personally I am far more worried about Trump than Brexit.

ClarkL · 13/10/2016 11:09

Cowgirl, I agree with the cuts. In an ideal world the system would be fixed before cuts are implemented.
I don't want pensions cut. As for the disabled - I want to move away from access to work and have a similar set up in Germany where anyone with a disability is given money to purchase equipment they may need to help them get into employment, not wait until they have a job before offering any help.
I want more money available in schools and workplaces to make them as accessible and inclusive as they can, I want education to employers on what people can actually do and what reasonable adjustments are and how it can actually benefit their organisation.

What I don't want, is to work and take home the same money as someone who refuses to work - as for those on benefits in areas where there is high season work and foreign workers are imported, why aren't they doing those jobs? It should be easier for those who work in a seasonal sector due to location. I'm thinking seaside/rural countryside to be able to work when there is work and know they don't have to wait 3 months for their benefits to kick in and go through the whole process of claiming all over again.
There is a huge difference between can't and wont. The whole system is flawed and needs improvement.

Scot2Be · 13/10/2016 11:11

Bunty I agree, however British people are just going to have to do jobs such as picking fruit and veg, once Eastern Europeans aren't welcome any longer. Maybe people who loose their jobs as a result of Brexit could be made to do these jobs in return for job seekers allowance? People could earn patriotic points this way, if you get a certain number of British gold stars you get extra food vouchers or somewhat?

SleepFreeZone · 13/10/2016 11:12

Oh that's funny. Only the Eastern Europeans are willing to pick our strawberries? Brilliant. let's try and make sure we keep some countries poor so they will continue to come here and pick up our poorly paid manual jobs. What are you going to do when gasp Eastern Europeans want paying a better wage or Indian children are no longer available to stitch your Primark clothing and keep things nice and cheap. Long as we are alright guv and we get our strawberries picked.

Underparmummy · 13/10/2016 11:15

Love the idea that buying from Aldi protects against inflation.

A vote for leave was a vote for the elite who benefit from a low pound vs dollar rate. A vote for remain was a vote for price and economic stability.

I told a salesman this am to put up prices. If customers moan, find out which way they voted, if they voted out then its a double increase.

Gowgirl · 13/10/2016 11:16

I lived by the seaside, every year the ag and fishing would struggle to recruit locally, I had neighbours sniffing at me for working a smelly job, but I also know they are still sitting in the same ha housing estate on benefits. Unfortunately it will be their children that suffer due to the cuts.....there is no cure for stupid unfortunately.

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