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To join a "premium nursing agency"?

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Gallopingourmet · 05/10/2016 13:21

30 years in the NHS as a qualified nurse, reams of experience considered by my colleagues to be "exceptionally knowledgeable, hard working and an outstanding team player" but due to the lack of one qualification am stuck on a band 5 (approx £28k pa), we are all treated like crap by our management, no funding for any study leave, our dept is endlessly being critisced by the management despite being highest rated dept in the hospital for "patient satisfaction" this isn't good enough, tired of working "long days" 12 3/4 hours usually with no break 12/13 times a month, working completely ridiculous shift patterns, not having my shift request granted, not having my annual leave requests granted (I don't actually won't two weeks at the end of November I wanted two weeks in October when my DS was here), paying to park my car, only being allowed to park at a "subsides rate" 4 times a fortnight (I work 6 times a fortnight), no public transport where I live so parking costs me £10 on the other two days, I could go on. So I'm seriously thinking of joining a "premium agency" and if it works chucking in the NHS completely. They pay 2 1\2 times what I earn now, and pay travelling costs, parking cost. If I solely worked for them just 6 shifts a month I would earn significantly more that I do now and have no hassle (I've done agency before and love it). To me its a no brainer but my good friend is being sniffy about it she thinks Im behaving "immorally" because the premium agencies are making a stinking profit out of the NHS's self inflicted staffing crisis!

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Duckyneedsaclean · 05/10/2016 15:26

I'd stay part time NHS for the security and pension, then agency the rest of the time. That was my plan before I found out I was upduffed with twins.

QuiteLikely5 · 05/10/2016 15:27

Your friend is jealous

Gallopingourmet · 05/10/2016 15:32

"With a huge risk of being stuck in an environment with frustrated and burned out nurses"
I know advanced nurse practioners in all the areas you mention and have in the past worked in both minor injury units and a very similar environments to a prison. Sadly there are many frustrated burnt out nurses in these environments; not just the wards. The NHS is collapsing the pressure on all staff at all levels and in all areas is immense, this summer we have been as busy as we are in the winter (summer is our quieter time), we are seeing more sick patients this summer than we have ever done before, our limited rescources are stretched to nothing, beds outside our trust are becoming like hens teeth and we are now keeping patients on our ward that three or four years ago we would have transferred out to a regional centre and when we are deciding to transfer them our regional centres have no bed due to no staff and we're airlifting them 100's of miles.
We rarely get a break in 12 3/4 hours but we are expected to make critical decisions sometimes I don't get to the loo all shift. Our doctors are also in short supply and very thinly spread, often two doctors are covering four depts, when there is an emergency in one, nurses are left to manage an emergency in another area.
Critical mistakes are being made by both doctors and nurses.

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Gallopingourmet · 05/10/2016 15:37

MrsFiona yes I could possibly look at agency work to fund my training although our students find it difficult to work and study at the same time. But this is definitely something I'm considering.
Some would say that getting a promotion to the next grade up may bring more money but also more stress, you do the same job as the band 5's and loads of "admin" in your own time. We currently have 5 staff off with mental health problems two are on the next band up!

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ragz134 · 05/10/2016 16:26

Are there jobs nurses can do outside NHS, apart from agencies? Could you do something else with your training, that isn't actually nursing? I know a nurse that set up a first aid training company, she does really well with that. Or maybe research?
Back to your original question, you are NBU to want less stress and more money. I think nursing should be moving away from the expectations to be selfless martyrs to a vocation, as it sets us up to take all the crap and not complain. Of course we need to care for our patients, but if you can't care for yourself then you won't be able to. I agree that the NHS is collapsing, quite possibly at the design of the government, and it scares the crap out of me...
If agency work will take the strain off you, go for it and sod what your friend says.

Polarbearflavour · 05/10/2016 16:37

YANBU.

I was an NHS nurse but I left because working conditions are horrendous.

Private hospitals do pay more IME...around £5k more than the NHS and I used to get free meals on duty and private health cover too. Fewer patients to look after and a nicer working environment.

SquinkiesRule · 05/10/2016 18:01

YANBU Another NHS nurse here, I only do 24hrs a week, but if I start getting pissed about with my shifts, I will leave and go and work in one of the nicer care homes around us for more money and the same number of hours.
There are a lot of 50 somethings working in our department who have cut their hours to 18 or 20 and are now picking up a shift a week with a premium agency You aren't allowed to work for your own trust as an agency nurse, but for chatting, so far one has had a day at a local private boarding school, a day in one of the really nice nursing homes, and a day in the private hospital, she's loving it. Wishes she'd done it sooner.

Gallopingourmet · 05/10/2016 18:05

Thank you for all your comments especially other nurses. You have reassured me that I am not being unreasonable.
My friend frequently talks about nursing being a "vocation" for me it's a job which I try to do the best of my ability as I would if I was a dustman, accountant or prime minister. She's an intelligent sensible person but thinks I should stay and fight for better conditions pay etc but all who work in the NHS know this is pointless.
Good luck to my fellow nurses and the rest of you probably have no idea quite how bad our NHS has got, how strapped for cash they are, the future is not good.

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frikadela01 · 05/10/2016 18:17

Yadnbu. I'm an RMN qualified for 4 years now and regularly consider jacking it in.l for agency work but I need the benefits of maternity leave etc at the moment.

I can't consider private work either since in mental health privaye usually translates as patients the nhs cannot manage.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

SquinkiesRule · 05/10/2016 20:05

frikadela01 Thats not always the case in private.
We have sent some truly sweet, happily muddled Dementia patients to lots of EMI homes where the RMN staff work in the private sector.

LetsJunglyJumpToIt · 05/10/2016 20:20

the NHS is currently experiencing a massive staffing crisis

Well aware, just going home from a 12 hour shift myself!

frikadela01 · 05/10/2016 22:40

Very true Squinkies I didn't think of the elderly.
However having spent years prior to qualifying working in EMI homes I wouldn't go back for all the tea in China, I've never been physically attacked more than when I worked with the elderly. Hats off to the people that work in that environment their entire career, it's both physically and mentally exhausting at times.

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