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Problems with landlord

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saintagur · 27/09/2016 07:10

DD is moving to Cambridge to do a one year Masters, and is hoping to carry on to do a doctorate, which will take a further 3 years.

She has rented an apartment close to where she will be studying and I have paid one year's rent in advance (to avoid having to pay the agents a further significant sum of money to carry out checks on me as the guarantor).

We only had a quick viewing of the property before we took on the tenancy, as the agent was late and was rushing to another viewing. The property was also occupied and therefore we couldn't see everything as clearly as if it were unoccupied. However, the property is lovely, great location etc, and DD may well want to stay on for another 3 years if things work out.

But...the furniture and furnishings are rubbish. The sofas are worn and dirty, with various stains, the armchair is broken, the coffee tables are of chipped MDF, there are several slats missing from each of the beds, and the mattresses are old and worn. The chests of drawers have stains inside them, and one of the doors is missing from one of the built in wardrobes. The kitchen chairs are wooden garden chairs. The whole lot is rank and I am quite sure no charity would accept them. There is also mould around the bath.

DD and I collected the keys a few weeks ago when she moved her stuff in, with a view to moving in this week after our return from holiday. When we collected the keys and had a chance to inspect the furniture properly, we were horrified at the state of the furniture etc but thought that it wouldn't be a problem, as we would ask the landlord if she could rent unfurnished, at the same rent, and move furniture in from home. The agent we spoke to initially didn't think it would be a problem, but said to put the request in writing.

DD and I have since had various exchanges of e-mails with the property 'manager' from the agents, who is less than useless. She says that the landlord doesn't want to let unfurnished, that we didn't mention it at the time, that the mould is not mould but mildew. She has failed to reply to concerns which we have raised as to whether or not the furnishings meet the fire safety regulations.

The inventory, which we did not receive until after paying the rent and signing the agreement, actually refers to a number of items as being stained, old, worn etc and, in the case of the armchair, as not having a fire safety label. This is obviously a worry if there were to be a fire, as the property is on the top (3rd) floor. The agents now say they are sorry we are disappointed but that's it - they don't seem to be bothered that, even on the face of the inventory, their client is breaking the law.

I don't know what to do. My DD thinks we should take a hard line, but we are both mindful of not wanting to upset the landlord, in case she wants to stay on. I suppose we could just bundle up the furniture into the second bedroom, but then she is losing the use of a room, and just doesn't want all this old tat littering up the place. I will buy her a new bed though, as I honestly wouldn't want to let my dogs sleep on those mattresses.

So AIBU or is the landlord/agent? Any suggestions as to how to resolve this? DD starts her course next week and is already stressed, so could do without these problems on top.

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Humidseptember · 27/09/2016 09:38

Ha!!!

Yes of course you have made a huge massive mistake by handing over the money first a really silly thing to do.

On the other hand this doesnt negate the moral responsibulty of renting out half decent funriture.

NO one cares or is helping you because they hasve your money in their pocket.

You need to play hard ball.

You need to say " look I want flat un furnished, (photo all the rotten crap stuff) or I am going to court for my money back. up to you"

then watch how high they all jump.

Humidseptember · 27/09/2016 09:41

I just went back to read some posts - and wonder

is it any wonder LL get away with so much Confused

YellowCrocus · 27/09/2016 09:42

Oh God, I wish you could see some of the student lets I lived in in the early 2000s. Vermin infested hovels. It's character building.

saintagur · 27/09/2016 09:44

Dragon, you are right. This was the 3rd property we viewed and it's like a palace compared with the first two! It's a seller's market, I'm afraid!

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 27/09/2016 09:49

humid - LL get away with a lot because most people don't have the time and money to sue, or to risk their contract not being renewed. It is very depressing.

saint - ouch! If she ends up moving, it'd be worth looking at (many) more, and keeping an eye on rightmove for a couple of months before she has to seriously think about moving, so she can see what's out there.

Moving in Cambridge at this time of year is horrible, because all the MPhils and PhDs and postdocs are moving at the same time. Much nicer things come up at other times of year, and it's not quite so frantic (which might be worth knowing if she does go on to the PhD).

19lottie82 · 27/09/2016 09:50

humid you can't take the LL to court for having crap furniture.

Or demand you now want the flat unfurnished.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 27/09/2016 09:52

You possibly could for mould, depending how bad it is and how useless they were? I wouldn't know, and my first port of call would be Shelter anyway (once I'd seen if I could make it go away).

specialsubject · 27/09/2016 09:53

Surprised you didnt notice.

Anyway - contact landlord not agent. Stuff probably is in fire safe regs.as nothing would have lasted that long in a student house. Get agreement to chuck and refurnish from charity shop. Do not store, will cost a fortune.

Hmo? Gas safe? Deposit.protection? Smoke alarms? Epc? All your.rights?

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