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£100 to sit together?

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sunchild77 · 26/09/2016 18:04

Kids first family holiday abroad... BA want £100 to sit us all together.. Kids first flight they are 4, 9 and 11yrs plus us mum and dad.
Would the airline really sit us all separately? Is paying out really a big waste of money?
Plus Im terrified of flying as it is... I need DH nearby!!
Thoughts please? thanks x

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shovetheholly · 28/09/2016 10:38

When I'm flying alone, I don't mind moving at all so others can sit together. One seat is very much like another and there is no reason I need to sit in a particular place on the plane. (When I was really ill, I had to have special arrangements so I could be near the loo, and airlines will organise this for you).

I've also had people very kindly move for me when I've been flying with DH. I wouldn't expect it or be narked off if they didn't though.

SuperFlyHigh · 28/09/2016 10:41

shove strangely enough I don't mind moving either or being separated from others...

Iamcheeseman · 28/09/2016 11:24

I'm flying in a few weeks. Was going to cost £20 for the 5 of us to sit together each way. I have a 2 year old and the rest of us are adults. I didn't pay, checked in last week and all 5 of us are sat A-E in the same row for both journeys. Maybe I got lucky or maybe it was because I checked in the day check in opened. Either way I saved myself £40
If no one paid to book seats everyone would end up happy!

kali110 · 28/09/2016 11:28

Cheap fizz wouldn't make me move either Hmm
my dh helps with my disabilities, don't think a random person would Hmm
Be very easy to ignore child or mother, headphones and tv show, done.

MontePulciana · 28/09/2016 11:50

If cheap fizz won't make you move, then the commander will do. You don't have any authority on an aircraft and if the seat is needed to suit a family, you can hop it! Safety first after all!! 😆

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 28/09/2016 11:53

If no-one paid to pre-book seats, the prices would go up, Iam. The pricing model for cheap flights works on the basis that, whilst some passengers only want the absolute basics - the flight and a seat somewhere on the plane - others will want or need the extras - pre-booked specific seating, baggage allowance etc. If no-one paid for the extras, the airlines wouldn't carry on offering the basic price+extras prices - they would go back to the old model where you paid a much higher price but all the things that are 'extras' now, were included in the price.

The new pricing model has opened up air travel to many more people - it's more affordable than train travel in plenty of cases, especially if you only want the basics - but this only works for the airlines if enough people buy the extras.

"Paying to prebook a specific seat does not exempt a person from the moral responsibility to move if a child needs to be seated with their parent."

What nonsense, AdjustableWench - why should I take more responsibility for a child being seated with their parent than that parent had taken?

If you were at the supermarket, and had bought a really nice sandwich, and were accosted by a parent who demanded you swap it for their child's plain bread roll, because their child 'needed' the better sandwich (a sandwich they could pay for themselves, but had chosen not to), would you hand it over? I very much doubt it!

I would never dream of expecting any other individual to take more responsibility for my children's safety and wellbeing than I was prepared to take myself.

Badbadbunny · 28/09/2016 12:02

If no one paid to book seats everyone would end up happy!

No, because everyone would try to do online check in as soon as it opened and all the seats would be taken straight away. Those who weren't able to login soon enough would then have less choice and those who left it even closer to the flight would still be left with odd seats.

In the old days, the way to get the seats you wanted was to make sure you were in the check in queue very early before it opened. We used to do it and try to be first in line and then we'd ask for the extra leg room exit seats (which they didn't charge for in those days!). Turn up later and you took pot luck.

Online reservations and online check in is just the modern equivalent of turning up 4 hours before your flight!

Andrewofgg · 28/09/2016 12:09

If you were at the supermarket, and had bought a really nice sandwich, and were accosted by a parent who demanded you swap it for their child's plain bread roll, because their child 'needed' the better sandwich (a sandwich they could pay for themselves, but had chosen not to), would you hand it over?

Or indeed if you had bought the last sandwich of the day of the sort the child liked - I think a better analogy - by getting there first. Just like on the trains from Euston there is always a carriage with no reservations but the best seats - the tables - are always bagged by people without heavy bags or children who can leg it when the platform number is announced.

BummyMummy77 · 28/09/2016 12:10

I keep saying on this thread that in the states people book their own seats when they buy the tickets and there's no apocalypse and our airfares aren't sky high.

You've been fooled in to thinking its a necessity for cheapness or ease of use and it just isn't.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 28/09/2016 12:21

Yes - that is a better analogy, Andrew - I haven't had enough coffee yet today!

wasonthelist · 28/09/2016 12:30

It's a fucking rip off for everyone.

Not really, if travelling alone, short haul, I don't mind where I sit, so I can save (would also be happy to move but have never been asked)

If people made more of a fuss collectively I'm sure companies would start to bow to consumer pressure.
Er no, we'd just go back to what we had before - all reserved seating and higher fares for all.

Doggity · 28/09/2016 12:30

Monte LOL no, they would not make a disabled person or another family move. What part of that don't you understand?!

LogicallyLost · 28/09/2016 12:37

MontePulciana brave enough to say which airline you are with so i can make a point of avoiding them if possible?

dowhatnow · 28/09/2016 12:45

If I'd paid for my seat then I'd want the refunded cash in my hand before I'd even contemplate moving and I wouldn't be very happy then and may not move.

8 of us once paid to sit together and some chancer adults sat in our seats and refused to be moved for some spurious reason, until we kicked up such a stink that they were forced to move back to their own seats. It was a lot of money to pay for 8 prebooked seats, no way were we losing that money.

expatinscotland · 28/09/2016 12:47

'I keep saying on this thread that in the states people book their own seats when they buy the tickets and there's no apocalypse and our airfares aren't sky high.'

Yeah, but the service is shit. I'm American and won't fly on American airlines anymore. Shit service. You have to buy fucking everything, even meals on some flights, and then they're shit. Took United from Glasgow to Newark and then Newark to Houston one time. NEVER again. Bunch of rude dickheads for crew. Ditto Delta.

I'd fly Southwest domestically at a stretch, but long-haul? NO WAY.

chilipepper20 · 28/09/2016 13:22

You've been fooled in to thinking its a necessity for cheapness or ease of use and it just isn't.

it's just a way to suck money out of people after they have seen the headline price. You see this all the time now. You see the fare, but it often doesn't include things you'd expect.

I guess this is just business. I don't particularly mind the practice until I get hit with a charge I would reasonably expect to be covered in the fare. For example, I expect the fare to have at least one free (reasonable) method of payment.

MidniteScribbler · 28/09/2016 13:35

You've been fooled in to thinking its a necessity for cheapness or ease of use and it just isn't.

I'm not fooled by anything. I am able to understand the difference in flight prices from ten/twenty years ago to now. I know that the the base prices we pay now are ridiculously low now compared to what we used to pay, and I know that is because the airlines reduce their fares to the lowest base price and that customers need to decide what additional fees are required for them. If I want to take luggage then I pay, if I want to sit in a particular seat then I pay. Why is this so hard for people to comprehend?

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 28/09/2016 14:01

If cheap fizz won't make you move, then the commander will do. You don't have any authority on an aircraft and if the seat is needed to suit a family, you can hop it! Safety first after all!!

If the seat is needed to suit a family then maybe the family should book them and not assume the world revolves around them or owes them a favour.

wasonthelist · 28/09/2016 14:02

I keep saying on this thread that in the states people book their own seats when they buy the tickets and there's no apocalypse and our airfares aren't sky high.

You've been fooled in to thinking its a necessity for cheapness or ease of use and it just isn't.

Flying internally in the US isn't the same as flying in Europe or from Europe to, for example, the USA.

Also there are quite a few US airlines that do charge, some for any choice, some for "premium" seats (ones with a humane amount of legroom) so your claim is simply not true.

PersianCatLady · 28/09/2016 14:16

if the seat is needed to suit a family, you can hop it! Safety first after all!
What a joke. If you want a certain seat to suit a family then fucking well pay for it.

ohdearme1958 · 28/09/2016 14:25

If cheap fizz won't make you move, then the commander will do. You don't have any authority on an aircraft and if the seat is needed to suit a family, you can hop it! Safety first after all!! 😆

Monte the Captain would be more than welcome to offload me if I hadn't already decided to get off.

ohdearme1958 · 28/09/2016 14:29

Yeah, but the service is shit. I'm American and won't fly on American airlines anymore. Shit service

I believe you if the Admiral Club in Miami is anything to go by. I was in it last week and it was bloody dire. An embarrassment to whatever airline runs it. Never again. I'd sooner sit in one of the concourse bars.

BummyMummy77 · 28/09/2016 15:02

Delta don't make you pay for meals or extras internationally. And I find their crew way nicer than BA or Virgin.

And wason - did you not see my comments down the thread that there was an amendment to the faa bill in April which will mean no more charges to sit parents with their children? If it's not in force by now it will be very soon.

I fly long haul from the states a lot thanks, not just internally. No need to be patronising.

wasonthelist · 28/09/2016 15:07

I wasn't being patronising, just accurate.

OlennasWimple · 28/09/2016 15:08

Spirit (ultra low cost airline in the States) makes you pay $35 to bring a piece of hand luggage on the plane...

JetBlue give you unlimited snacks, but the standard catering on internal flights - even 6 hours coast to coast - for most US airlines is a small drink and a bag of pretzels. One way that they can keep costs down compared to UK-based airlines