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To think this Guardian article really doesn't help breastfeeding

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Swannykazoo · 26/09/2016 10:00

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/sep/24/10-things-you-need-to-know-about-vaginas
So - for a start, vaginas and breastfeeding are not the same thing. HTH Guardian.
There's such a lot of snippy commenting that anyone feeding past an arbitrary age that "its weird" and "you're doing it for you, not the baby/toddler" that suggesting its a secret erotic thing has really annoyed me.
I can honestly hold my hand up to say I've never found anything less erotic than breastfeeding. Lots of lovely oxytocin, yes. Wanting to get down and dirty. No. In fact, total libido preventer for at least a year. Now a nice article labelling me as a perv. I'm very very cross but am I being unreasonable about it?

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Mozfan1 · 26/09/2016 11:30

Why would anyone use a vibrator while breast feeding?! What the hell?????

ElBandito · 26/09/2016 11:45

My main concern is that the article says it is only episode 1. There is more of this shite to come.

butterfliesandzebras · 26/09/2016 12:17

Read it again. It says "female genetalia" and also mentions that two thirds of women don't know the difference between vagina and vulva.

Actually, the article has been edited since I originally read it, there's a note at the bottom of the article about it being changed "to clarify that urine does not come from the vagina."

Maybe if you read it again, you'd see that this time...

hackmum · 26/09/2016 12:25

I agree, this wasn't a very good article. There are a whole load of more interesting facts than the ones they came out with, some of which weren't really facts at all. I thought it was notable that they didn't mention childbirth at all - how can the "fact" about making fake female genitalia out of male genitalia be more interesting, useful or pertinent than something relating to what happens to our genitalia in childbirth? Something about tearing or episiotomies might have been more useful.

I was surprised at their comment about people not knowing what a perineum is - if you've given birth, then that is something you will know.

It was unfortunate that they made the remark about urinating out of the vagina, which lots of people below the line commented on. I think that was because they then went on to point out that many people say "vagina" when they mean "vulva", so at that point that was how they were using the term themselves. Of course, it wasn't very clear.

lostoldlogin2 · 26/09/2016 12:30

Am I alone in thinking that using a vibrator whole breastfeeding is surely at best very inappropriate and at worst sexual abuse ( leaning towards the latter)? If that was a man doing another routine childcare task (changing a nappy, for example) and he decided to have a wank.....surely social services would be called by anyone he told.

..not lauded in an article for it....?

Mozfan1 · 26/09/2016 12:32

lost that's what I thought. Masturbating while your child is breast feeding is surely some sort of sexual abuse?

lostoldlogin2 · 28/09/2016 00:21

I would have thought so. If not it should be. Disturbing.

AppleMagic · 28/09/2016 00:31

Based on my experience (and that of friends I'm close enough to to speak about this stuff) breastfeeding is much more likely to cause a massive drop in libido than be arousing.

sycamore54321 · 28/09/2016 01:02

I agree that the article takes a ridiculous approach but I'm interested to know why you feel any article in mainstream media needs to "help" breastfeeding. Like lots of other issues, there can be lots of opinions on it so the phrasing of your question intrigued me.

BillSykesDog · 28/09/2016 01:38

I guess that some women might feel involuntarily aroused for the reasons given. And I don't think a thread like this would really help with breastfeeding either as they probably feel incredibly guilty and disturbed anyway and this wouldn't really help matters.

The story about the vibrator is disgusting though and, yes, I think sexual abuse.

user1475019164 · 28/09/2016 01:39

in some cultures they breastfeed for 3 or 4 years. each to their own, i say!

IceBeing · 28/09/2016 01:59

Some women do feel aroused...but I suspect they may feed less long than those that don't simply due to the weirding out factor.

Pretty sure I wouldn't have fed till 3 if I was getting involuntarily turned on by it.

MidniteScribbler · 28/09/2016 02:03

They used a performance artist and someone who draws painting with their menstrual blood. Hardly in depth hard hitting journalism.

Wriggler79 · 28/09/2016 05:48

Breastfeeding was an unpleasant experience for me because it gave me that type of sensation and made me hate it. Didn't carry on and wouldn't try by DC3. Definitely didn't embrace it and get the Rabbit out; that's horrible. Would have appreciated a bit of a heads-up that this can happen though as feeling weird and not being able to feed because of it didn't really help my PND! Always felt guilty because I wasn't in pain or not producing milk or anything; literally just felt odd and horrible. And unnatural.

Swannykazoo · 28/09/2016 08:16

Just a turn of phrase - Sycamore -"This really doesn't help" is something I would say lots - but rarely says "this is helping" IFYSWIM. Lots of things don't "help" with breastfeeding attitudes but that's for another day / thread. This was just a cracker article.

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