To be outraged at this? RE: Convicted rapist in prison has gone missing in Manchester

[Feminazi]

www.itv.com/news/update/2016-09-24/police-searching-for-absconded-rapist-in-manchester/

Sending to all in Manchester tonight.

I am appalled at this. The police have said that this man is dangerous and that the public should not approach him. Why the fuck wasn't he kept in prison then?

All people who commit violent sexual crimes clearly need psychiatric help - there is obviously something not right with them

All people who commit violent sexual crimes clearly need psychiatric help - there is obviously something not right with them 

Being a violent twat does not make someone ill.

Fruitcider I said violent sexual crimes

I personally believe that an acceptable punishment would be to hang them in the city, or town or village, centre from a lamppost by the balls and let the victims/victims family/friends or even just mad paddy from down the road, him with a history of violent outbursts, take care of them

And in the real world outside the mail forums or Donald Trump fan club

If committing sexual offences = being mentally ill it would be our hospitals which are full rather than our prisons.

People have a very visceral reaction to this sort of thing. Which I completely understand. But public policy, justice and the Courts need to be based on more than that. We have to know what we as a society want. Because what you do if you want public safety is very different to what you do if you want revenge. Recidivism rates vary wildly (murder is very low, rape is very high) so that needs to be taken into account.

Mrs Terry Pratchett, your post at 17:45 is superb. Couldn't have explained it any better than that. You speak sense.

BlancheBlue

I've never read the Daily Mail in my life nor would I support Trump.

Would just like to see those who inflict life long damage and pain, especially to kids, suffer just a little at the hands of those who won't "serve 4 years and then be free or on licence because the law says so"

Personally I feel rapists murderers and paedophile all deserve life imprisonment but I suppose this isn't the place for that

And I'm sure you are not alone, however they say that when you take all hope of ever getting released away from a prisoner, they become totally unmanageable in prison.

I personally, for myself, would prefer a death sentence to a lifetime in prison but as there have been and there will always be so many cases of wrongful convictions, I cannot support the death penalty.

I agree that the sentences for rape and sexual assaults are often way to lenient, and that's the lucky one who get a conviction, the convictions rate is utterly pathetic.

I don't think it should carry the same sentence as murder though as it might mean that offenders who may have raped and let a woman go will be more likely to rape and murder her, he will be punished the same and in murdering his victim she can't report and give evidence against him.

And our hospitals are already full with not enough mental health beds as it is in the area i worked in two out of three acute mental health wards have closed down in the last five yrs which means there are not enough beds for those that need them so i,m not sure where people like this man .

x2boys I live in Bolton as well. He could be lurking anywhere round here.

There is some ignorant and ill informed posting on here.

He didn't get sentenced to four years
No one necessarily screwed up. The bail hostel can't lock him in his room 24/7.
There will undoubtedly be many dangerous offenders about who've never been caught.

Mrs TP is right.

However, this specific man has been labelled as a 'danger to the public', so should not have been let out. He should have been in a psychiatric ward.

What a ridiculous comment. Do you realise that patients in psychiatric hospitals do access the community and even have hone leave once they are well enough? It's an important part of their recovery and rehabilitation.

Also a great number of inpatients have never committed a crime nor are they all violent.

Please don't stigmatise people with mental illnesses.

I am very sorry if I offended anyone with my suggestion that he should be in a psychiatric ward/hospital. I didn't articulate myself well. I will admit that I don't know much about mental illness other than through real life experiences and anecdotes.

What I meant was a place like Broadmoor. A prison, but with rehabilitation for the prisoners. This man is a danger to the public and should not be let out until he is 'cured' (if there is a cure that is). If there is no way to make him 'non-violent', then he needs to be kept away from the public.

Erm..Broadmoor is a hospital. I am sure this chap comes nowhere near the qualifying criteria.

OP the rel. between MH and illness and offending of all types is very complex, and the CJS employ F/T workers to apply the fiendishly complicated interface between prisons and secure units/hospitals.

There is no mention of any MH issues with this bloke and as has been said the authorities are required to release him at the half way stage.

And..we do not know why he absconded from the AP. It may well be nothing to do with an increase in risk of offending.

What I meant was a place like Broadmoor. A prison, but with rehabilitation for the prisoners.

Broadmoor is a HOSPITAL, ran by nurses. It is not a prison!

Yes Broadmoor is a hospital. No, you don't know much about mental illness. Or the criminal justice system.

to be fair the heading does present itself as a startler and eye-catching. And invites the 'public' to possibly have OP's response. It does sound weird to have someone released from prison who is assessed as 'dangerous' and on occasion that is how the system works - a person cannot often be re-assessed as to their harm level until they have been out in the community for a bit.

This bloke is very probs hiding in a mate's house and trying to remain well under the radar - or heading for a port. Offending isn't his priority one wouldn't think right now.

Arrested today. Don't know of the circs. but he is back in custody and won't be out for a while.