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Am I Being Unreasonable to think that British Airways treated us in an absolutely unacceptable way?

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Lololala82 · 22/09/2016 12:26

This is the letter of complaint that I wrote to BA. I am still awaiting a response. Has anyone else had a terrible experience with British Airways losing their luggage and having to deal with City Bags?

Dear British Airways,

On Friday 19th August I travelled from Nice to London Heathrow with my husband and our 15 month old son on Flight BA 0347. I was 8 months pregnant.

At Nice airport we were told that our pram would be put in the hold and returned to us at the gate when we landed; orange ‘Priority’ labels were attached to all of our items of luggage, I presume because we were flying Club Europe.

When we landed at Heathrow we found that our pram was not waiting for us at the gate meaning that I had to carry Finn through the airport which was extremely uncomfortable as my son is heavy and I was heavily pregnant.

After waiting for over an hour at baggage reclaim (still holding my son), we were told that our three checked bags, our pram and our car seat had not made the flight. We were assured by BA that all of our luggage would arrive the next day at the latest. We arranged for them to be delivered to my mother-in-law’s flat in SW10 where we were staying that weekend.

Saturday 20th August 2016
Our bags were not delivered as promised.

Sunday 21st August 2016
We received several text messages that morning to say that our bags would be delivered but they were not. This was not only highly inconvenient as we did not have the pram but also a risk to my son’s health as his prescription eczema cream (which is more than 100ml so could not be taken as hand luggage) was in the check in luggage. I telephoned British Airways to ask them to change the delivery address to our house in N4. You confirmed that our bags were (a) in the UK, (b) were with your courier City Bags and (c) that the change to the delivery address had been registered.

After we arrived home, we found out that City Bags had attempted to deliver the bags to my mother-in-law’s house. Our message to deliver the bags to our house had obviously not been relayed by British Airways as promised. I telephoned both British Airways and City Bags who informed me that some of our bags had arrived in the UK but they were not sure which ones and that they had now been sent back to the City Bags depot.

Monday 22nd August 2016
One of our bags – sadly not the one containing my son’s medicated cream – was delivered, and also our son’s pram which was badly damaged. The rubber on the handle of the pram had been slashed open and one of the wheels is now completely wonky. The pram cost over £600 and is now unusable meaning we will have to buy a new one before my second child arrives later this month. In addition, our son had been struggling to sleep without his eczema medication.

That evening we received more text messages from City Bags. The first one at 19.51 said that our bags would be delivered between 23.42 and 01.42. We telephoned City Bags to say that we had a baby and did not want to be woken at such an antisocial hour, and to ask if they could deliver them the next day. At 22.07 we received another message to say that we would be delivered our bags “today between 14.22 and 16.22” – which at that point was in the past!

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
On Tuesday evening the remaining two bags were delivered. When the courier arrived he also had a Mamas & Papas pushchair that did not belong to us but had a label with our name on it. When I told him that it wasn’t ours, the courier said that “you may as well take it anyway though”. We obviously refused.

This whole ordeal was hugely stressful and upsetting for my family, and I spent much of the four days we were separated from our luggage in tears. I am due to give birth to my second child in a week and a half; the pram we were intending to put our new baby in has been completely ruined. It is British Airways’ responsibility to ensure that its customers get their luggage when they land, or at least in a timely fashion. City Bags is utterly incompetent and incapable.

In summary, I would like a response to the following questions:

  • On your website you claim ‘We take great pride in carrying your bags safely and speedily to your final destination but if something goes wrong we’ll pull out all the stops to fix it as quickly as possible.’ How is this compatible with our experience of excessive delays and constant mistakes which ultimately put my 15 month old son’s health at risk?
  • My £600+ pram was damaged and is now unusable a fortnight before my second child is due as a direct result of my experience flying with BA. What compensation are you going to offer me to meet the extra and unexpected cost of replacing it?
  • Will you be raising my concerns about customer service with City Bags? Do you think that it is acceptable to organise a delivery to a family with a young child between the hours of 23.42 and 01.42 on a Monday night?
  • I am particularly perturbed that their courier was encouraging me to partake in the theft of someone else’s property. Do you think that this service is in keeping with British Airways’ ethos and customer service policies?

Given the extreme nature of our experience and particularly because of the City Bags courier’s suggestion that I steal someone else’s luggage, I will be reporting my concerns to a number of independent consumer advocacy organisations. I have copied this letter to You and Yours, A Spokesman Said and the Guardian’s consumer team.

Mrs xxxx xxxx

OP posts:
manyathingyouknow · 22/09/2016 18:18

Travelled with BA once and they lost my luggage.

MissMoo22 · 22/09/2016 18:23

Finding a replacement prescribed eczema cream is NOT as easy as some of you are making out. Chemists might let you buy some 1% hydrocortisone but try buying a tube of dermovate or synalar for a child and see how far you get. Yes, she could have bought some hydrocortisone but maybe her sons eczema is beyond that.

Her husband was carrying the bags, there's only so much one man can do but maybe he should have stuck the OP and their son in his back as well and trotted them through the airport.

As for the pram, OP, you will have to settle for it being repaired and them hopefully fitting the bill. Definitely invest in a cheap buggy next time you travel because unfortunately prams do seem to get ruined while travelling.

LikeDylanInTheMovies · 22/09/2016 19:40

You should have posted this in Chat, or anywhere except AIBU. People fall over themselves to find ways the OP was unreasonable, even when she clearly wasn't.

So would it have helped if everyone just said 'go ahead op send a long rambling letter that doesn't address the matter in hand and gives BA a blow by blow account of how it made you feel across 4 days, accompanied by a vague threat to get You and Yours involved.' Would that have helped the op get the outcome she wanted?

People have raised relevant points - the medication should have been in hand luggage. If the op made heavy play of that BA could have used it to shut down her complaint on the grounds it should have been in her hand luggage.

Likewise some of us felt that expecting a while new pram when it could be repaired was OTT and not a reasonable when the damage was minor. It would be like valet parking buckling your car's wheel and scratching the paint work and then you demanding they gave you a brand new car rather than replacing the wheel and getting the paint work repaired.

Again, the request for a whole new pram and the 'four days in tears' gives BA scope to dismiss her as a chancer trying it on for compensation (I'm not saying she is) but it does somewhat undermine her legitimate claim for the pram to be fixed.

NightCzar · 22/09/2016 21:31

Qantas or Heathrow baggage handlers wrecked my pram once. Landed and it came out with a wheel missing. I was on my own on a trip with a 6 month old so it wasn't fun. They gave me a $250 qantas voucher by way of compensation. If I recall correctly it was half of the value of the pram and that was their standard policy. Or so they said.

kissingJustForPractice · 22/09/2016 22:48

Re emergency prescriptions - you wouldn't need an appointment, if you phoned your surgery (or a local one if you're away from home) and told them what had happened they would be able to get a doctor to write a script for you to collect or get sent straight to the pharmacist. You can do this over the phone with the out of hours doctor too.

Frazzled2207 · 22/09/2016 23:30

All sounds very shoddy but next time
-take a sling for the toddler
-either take a cheap buggy or get a fancy bag for the fancy buggy
-get a doc's letter for the cream. Or decant it into a smaller container.

Of course BA need to compensate you, but in the first instance your insurance should pay out.

viques · 22/09/2016 23:46

All very annoying and frustrating, but what I fail to understand is why your mil did not accept the delivery at her house. It is not as though you live at opposite ends of the country, would have taken your oh a couple of hours to drive over from north to South London. A pain, but at least you would have had your stuff,and your child his medication.

NotMe321 · 23/09/2016 01:22

If they still haven't replied, you need to escalate this. Also tweet them - that's often the quickest way of getting a response.

Loafingaround · 23/09/2016 07:40

This is utterly utterly appalling OP. As a frequent complainer I usually get more than decent compensation when justified- and your letter isn't that bad. But- you should have clearly outlined what compensation you were expecting. Also highlighted the safety issues- i.e. not giviny uo back a carseat?? So young DC had to- I assume- travel without carseat on return journey? Damaging a buggy- meaning young DC can not use buggy and him walking alongside you being pregnant is even harder for you to race after him in dangerous situations. The prescription cream also...
You need to find the direct emails of people at BA- anyone- but for eg. head of marketing, head of PR (standard customer service rarely gets the response you want) and forward this to them. They make millions from families and this is incredibly poor PR all round, they would want to nip this in the bud now. Especially as you were flying club.

SolomanDaisy · 23/09/2016 07:59

KLM lost my luggage once and it was a very easy process for sorting it out. I sent them one email listing my extra costs, they replied asking for my Iban and then paid the amount into my bank account. The luggage then turned up when they said it would, two days later. BA's customer service sounds pretty terrible.

Yes, you've made mistakes (the expensive buggy is the major one, I don't know how anyone has avoided the advice to get a cheap one just for flying), but you're heavily pregnant and emotional. There is actually something weirdly emotional about being separated from your stuff.

NotYoda · 23/09/2016 08:11

NotMe

I am guessing this thread is the OP's way of escalating this

dinkystinky · 23/09/2016 08:14

Yep, bad experience with BA here too - losing luggage on flight back from Sicily (ridiculously short transit period at v busy enormous airport) - finally received the luggage (one buggy, two suitcases) two days later from City couriers wet, broken (buggy) and slashed (suitcases). Didn't bother complaining as no way of proving if it was like that because of the airport, BA or the courier...

Catsize · 23/09/2016 08:14

I suspect that you may get a repair for the pram but not much else. Easyjet lost our luggage on a two-night trip to Iceland. They've offered me £100 for circa £300 expenses (not to mention petrol to drive the 1hr 30 round trip to the only place open, and inconvenience) and if it had been on the trip home, we'd have got nothing as that is their policy. Am going to argue the toss with them, but it is a pain to do. The offer has just come through, the trip was in March!

I bought a £70 Pram/pushchair wraparound thing from Mountain Buggy for travelling on flights. Has definitely been worth it, as the damage I can see to the carrier would have been damage to the pushchair.

Catsize · 23/09/2016 08:16

Bizarrely, for weeks after getting our luggage back, I kept getting 'sorry we still haven't found your luggage' emails. In doing the honest thing and telling them they had found it, I have lost out!

Marynary · 23/09/2016 08:37

Their customer service sounds terrible but at least your baggage turned up eventually so they are unlikely to see it as a huge deal. My baggage was lost by an airline (several years ago) and never seen again. I don't think that this was uncommon and I had to claim on my insurance as airlines (at the time) were only liable for a small proportion of the costs.

I doubt that they will be concerned that you child didn't have their medication as you could have easily have sorted that out just by visiting a chemist. Next time you fly, take an empty container or some other evidence of what you normally have and they would be able to give you an emergency supply. The fact that you had to carry your child when heavily pregnant probably won't be seen as an issue either as your husband could have done that if you hadn't taken on so much hand luggage.

kikisdelivery · 23/09/2016 08:54

You need to find the direct emails of people at BA- anyone- but for eg. head of marketing, head of PR (standard customer service rarely gets the response you want) and forward this to them. They make millions from families and this is incredibly poor PR all round, they would want to nip this in the bud now. Especially as you were flying club

This is absolute nonsense. Just follow the appropriate procedures for their complaints/customer services, set out the case - as others have said get relevant quotes if needed for repair costs - and keep to the facts. It's exactly what I did with BA and I got a full refund on my request/complaint, when (as explained a few pages back) they'd originally only offered me the taxes refunded as compensation for my particular case.

Pestering and harrassing all and sundry emails you find via the BA website just smacks of chancing it - OP needs to give BA fair chance to respond.

OP if you get nowhere, I can recommend the Money Saving Expert Resolver site, who just put a claim through for me with American Airlines for something which has now been satisfactorily resolved. It's very good, I had my doubts but it worked perfectly.

greenlolly · 23/09/2016 09:14

Did you have insurance?

HumptyDumptyBumpty · 23/09/2016 09:39

WTAF? We are meant to expect that airlines cannot transport buggies and prams from A to B without damaging them and buy an extra buggy or pram simply to allow the baggage handlers to continue doing their jobs so poorly? Fuck that shit. Fire them, get in people who can handle a buggy without breaking it. This is such martyr-ish bullshit. 'It's my own fault for taking a Bugaboo Bee with me'.
Give me strength.

Marynary · 23/09/2016 10:01

Pestering and harrassing all and sundry emails you find via the BA website just smacks of chancing it - OP needs to give BA fair chance to respond.

I agree with this. Occasionally things get damaged in transit and my experience is that they will cover the cost of repair. Adding in all the other stuff about medication, carrying babies while pregnancy, not wanting to get up in the night for the baggage etc will just bury the real issue and may delay the claim.

LauraRoslin · 23/09/2016 17:37

dinkystinky - it doesn't matter whose fault it is, it's BA who have provided you with a substandard service. If they're dealing with a poor-quality subcontractor, that's their issue, not yours.

HanYOLO · 23/09/2016 18:09

Humpty, it's more that buggies are not designed to be transported that way, without packaging, inevitably somewhat squashed and possibly chucked about a bit. The manufacturers are quite clear about that (and will happily sell you a bag to prevent damage for 200 quid)

Moomichi · 23/09/2016 18:17

Our pram was damaged beyond repair when we got home off holiday. I contacted EasyJet within the five day time limit and they were great. We had a new pram two weeks later.
Hope you get it sorted.

deste · 23/09/2016 18:38

Our luggage was three days late with BA and they gave us a cheque for £500, they didn't quibble because they didn't want a fuss.

alibubbles · 23/09/2016 18:44

British Airways are shite. We travelled first class for a special occasion last year, the service was appalling. We were told that our complaint was not serious enough to justify any sort of recompense. We fly Emirates now.Their economy is superior to British Airwankers Airways economy

Doggity · 23/09/2016 20:35

YANBU to be miffed beyond belief but I agree that your letter is waaaay over the top and dramatic. Also, you were very silly to not read the medication information from BA which is very clear and says you can take as much liquid as you need on board if it prescribed or with a dr's letter. That said, I can see why you're irritated. BA are not like they used to be, their customer service is average, at best.

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