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...to be hurt and angry about my mother's reaction to my mc?

49 replies

SoftMyrtle · 20/09/2016 12:15

I got pregnant for the first time seven weeks ago, and last week I had a miscarriage. The mc started with an overnight bleed which ended up with me in hospital – after that we had to wait for a scan after the weekend to confirm what was going on, but we were pretty sure I’d lost it, which turned out to be the case. The day after the bleed I called my mum to tell her what had happened, and she was very sympathetic, saying, ‘Whatever we can do...’ etc etc. Later in the conversation we arranged to go to theirs for dinner the following evening, and I asked lightly whether Mum could make sure that if they served cheese it would be hard cheese and not soft, because even though we were fairly sure I’d miscarried I was going to go on obeying the pregnancy advice until it was completely confirmed, and not eating soft cheese was the thing I'd been struggling to get used to. She responded by saying no, ‘You don’t really want me not to serve soft cheese to everyone else [i.e. her, my dad and my husband], do you?’ and basically laughed and told me not to be so silly. At that point I said, 'Yes, I do want that, please,' (less lightly) and then when she only laughed I said, ‘But wait a minute, you just said if there was anything you could do...?!’ and she refused again.

I realise this sounds absurd (and obviously I am feeling particularly vulnerable and volatile right now) but it’s the symbolic value of it that’s really got to me – that, having offered help, when I asked for a tiny gesture of support to show that they understood and supported me (us), she dismissed it out of hand and implied that I was childish and selfish for asking. I didn’t want to sit at the table having to think about why I wasn’t supposed to eat soft cheese, and how actually I probably could have done anyway... I know I am very prone to anger right now, but I feel really hurt and furious that she offered sympathy and then wasn’t prepared to make any concession at all to my feelings when I asked for something specific that didn’t tally with what she wanted.

I should probably add that she had a mc before my older sister was born, which she was pretty cut up about, but obviously went on to have two of us (and told me that things would go better next time round). And generally we have a fairly good relationship, although she does rather subscribe to the I-love-you-so-much-how-dare-you-criticise-my-behaviour?! school of thought.

Any thoughts?

OP posts:
browneyesblue · 20/09/2016 13:06

I think I understand OP. For me it was wine. I knew that it would bring me very conflicted feelings at that awful 'in between' time.

I could have really done with a large glass of it, would have felt like I wasn't doing everything I possibly could if I had one, and I had a deep down feeling that having one would actually be okay - which would have meant facing the fact that I had miscarried before it was confirmed. It was easier for me to stay away from those sort of thoughts/situations until I knew 100%.

So sorry for what you're going through X

KurriKurri · 20/09/2016 13:07

'wouldn;t' give it a moment's thought.

SapphireStrange · 20/09/2016 13:13

I think YANBU. Your mother was astoundingly insensitive. You're going through a kind of grieving process and no one should be expected to be totally rational in that situation. One small gesture of kindness shouldn't be too much to ask; I can imagine, if I was in that position and asked something similar of any of my friends –let alone family – they would do it for me. It's just kindness.

I am sorry, OP. Thanks

Bug28 · 20/09/2016 13:14

Although your request may have seemed silly to her, it was important to you and it would not have been a hard thing for her to do. Even though it may seem irrational, you have been through a tragic event and are allowed to be irrational.

I do think though that she was not intentionally being mean but just didn't get the significance of it for you.

KurriKurri

Your post made me cry because I was thinking about what a lovely mum you sound like.

SapphireStrange · 20/09/2016 13:14

Here, your post is massively insensitive. Did you really have to say 'weird' and 'bizarre' to get your point across?

2016Hopeful · 20/09/2016 13:21

Sorry for your loss.

YANBU as it doesn't seem a big deal and soft cheese is not a major part of most meals so I don't really understand her issue. Maybe it was a misunderstanding, she is probably upset too and it came out wrong.

MoonStar07 · 20/09/2016 13:25

I get where you are coming from entirely. I do understand why you asked. You're in a really tough place. I do think you're being a teensy bit unreasonable BUT I completely understand why. You love your mum and vice versa. You know she is there for you. Don't feel down on her she loves you xx

SapphireStrange · 20/09/2016 13:26

It's so daft as well; she may well never have been going to even THINK about serving soft cheese. All she needed to say was 'Of course, love' and that would have been the end of it.

YelloDraw · 20/09/2016 13:31

Sorry about the MC - but it is pretty batty to request that no soft cheese is served in your presence.

KurriKurri · 20/09/2016 13:32

Thank you Bug28 - what a lovely thing to say Flowers

AnUtterIdiot · 20/09/2016 13:47

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elliejjtiny · 20/09/2016 13:52

I'm so sorry for your loss. YANBU at all.

PGPsabitch · 20/09/2016 14:13

I think ops mum has had a miscarriage AnUtterIdiot. Which makes it all the more insensitive and is probably adding to ops upset.

Sometimes even if you've been through it you can be insensitive because there are no right words and ever person is different.

AnUtterIdiot · 20/09/2016 14:26

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Willow2016 · 20/09/2016 14:59

Not weird at all, just a simple request.

Would it have been the end of the world if everyone didnt have soft bloody cheese? I doubt. It really smacks of your mum putting herself first as the 'perfect hostess' serving the 'perfect cheese board' before your feelings.

Sorry for your loss, I know how it feels to miscarry. Flowers

Annie592 · 20/09/2016 17:14

So sorry you're going through this. I don't think you are being unreasonable at all. I got a certain pleasure over giving up certain foods, even ones I loved, because I was so happy to be pregnant. Having to turn down those foods when you know you might have miscarried, but are not 100% sure, would just be a horrible reminder of the whole situation. When I started bleeding (at 7 weeks), a friend said- at least you can go home and have a glass of wine. I know she was trying to be nice, but I was so upset by it, I think you can be completely forgiven for being sensitive at this time. Take care of yourself xx

IceIceIce · 20/09/2016 17:51

I understand why you didn't want to eat it but tbf I think expecting everyone else to refrain is a bit unreasonable.

I'd probably have not served it if my own daughter asked me though.

BarbarianMum · 20/09/2016 18:00

Sorry about your loss. I think you were unreasonable and I don't think even grief means you get to micromanage other people's diets.

AHedgehogCanNeverBeBuggered · 20/09/2016 18:09

I've recently miscarried a very long-awaited IVF baby, so I know how much it hurts. However, I'd think you were joking or completely irrational if you made that request of me.

Your mum probably just didn't know what to say and came out with the wrong thing - it is a bit odd to expect other people not to eat food just because you can't eat it. I know from experience that nothing will stop you thinking about it/bursting into random tears, cheese is irrelevant.

Sorry for your loss, I know it's terribly difficult - the thing I found hard at first was realising that the world goes on, but after a while that actually helped me. Flowers

HeldTogetherByGafferTape · 20/09/2016 18:14

Does OPs dad maybe not know about the mc yet, and therefore she being the only one not eating soft cheese at the table might provoke questions (or excitement) that she might be pg? Thus it's easier if everyone has the cheese she feels comfortable eating?

Sorry for your loss OP Flowers. No need to go round for dinner if you're not feeling up to it?

cexuwaleozbu · 20/09/2016 18:18

Yanbu at all OP. Sorry for your loss Flowers

It takes time to adjust to the "not being pg any more" and whilst maybe in a bit you might be able to enjoy soft cheese, wine etc without thinking about the sad reason why you are allowed them, now is too soon for you and it is not remotely unreasonable to ask your mum to not serve a menu that will cause you to have to dwell on this sadness. However, don't let this cloud your relationship. She doesn't mean to be insensitive but her generation process emotional events very differently to ours.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 20/09/2016 18:22

I understand why you didn't want to eat it but tbf I think expecting everyone else to refrain is a bit unreasonable.

I agree.

Flowers OP

UnicornPee · 20/09/2016 18:30

Sorry to side with your mum, but I would agree it's a bit silly to ensure there is no soft cheese when currently not pregnant.
I have had a MC this year so can sympathise.

AliMonkey · 20/09/2016 18:48

I completely get where OP was coming from. If she hadn't had the bleed and had therefore still assumed she was pregnant then she could have coped fine with others eating soft cheese even if annoying. If mc confirmed then she could have eaten soft cheese - although would have been bittersweet. But not being able to when probably pointless would have been so hard, but if slightest chance still pregnant then definitely wouldn't want to. Many PP don't seem to understand that at that point the MC wasn't 100% confirmed.

I had my mc confirmed on a Fri morning and was booked in for d&c on the Mon. I went back to work then that evening carried on with our plans to go to friends for takeaway. There was nothing I could do so thought I might as well just carry on as normal (and avoid having to give excuses when I wasn't yet ready to tell people - only one friend knew I was pg). But was so hard to "act normal" when it wasn't normal at all.

I suspect OP's mum just didn't get it rather than she was being deliberately insensitive.

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