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WIBU to take dc out of preschool less than 2.5 weeks in?

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Vandree · 15/09/2016 13:21

I probably am being unreasonable, precious last born and need some talking too! DC started Montessori last monday in a lovely school about 5 minutes walk away. DC will be 3 in two months and is the youngest of 4 children and the only boy. He is very happy smiley chatty child (happy even as a baby) and never really causes trouble other than the usual toddler variety. He has built in playmates with his siblings and thinks he is a lot older than he is. He has no interest in children his own age other than to call them babies and gets right in the middle of the big kids which can cause problems when they want to play without ds. When the older ones were going back to school he really wanted to go too.

I admit I wasn't anywhere near ready to send him to preschool and drove everyone mad debating whether to do it or not. My mum told me I was holding him back and mollycoddling him so mammy guilt kicked in so off he went while I was still anxious. He ran straight in, charmed everyone and decided he loved school the first day. We were leading him in gently with a few hours 3 mornings a week. I know its totally normal for a child to rebel and decide they dont want to go so we were prepared for it. He's gone from my happy boy to liking school to telling me constantly that hes not going to school again in his limited speech. Yesterday he was taken off me screaming crying and trying to run back to "his house". When I picked him up his teacher told me she got cross with him as he wanted a childs toy and when he cried and was stubborn in getting his own way she got cross with him. This was told to me at the door of the school in front of my dc. I was told that we needed to work on his stubborness at home and stop giving into him as he needs to "comply" when in school.She did then make comment to him about her being cross with him and I did say to him something like he needed to share with the other kids and not take the toys, to which she replied "oh no, he isn't sharing the toy, he might have a turn with it in a few days"Confused She said he enjoyed learning his "letters" and otherwise enjoyed the day. I was taken aback, not just with a 2 year old learning letters but also that I need to work on him at home. He is quite independent and stubborn but in no way does he get his own way! He may try too, and may try to push his older siblings around but if there is an argument over a toy say we either remove him from the situation to diffuse or we distract him with something else. He's not even 3 year, reasoning doesn't really work. He has gone from my happy chatty child to one who wont speak and is clingy which he never was before.

I am very aware that I was anxious about starting him which stem from having 2 miscarriages this year. But I feel uncomfortable to how the toy situation was resolved, how it was brought up in front of my child and also that he is very unhappy. I do feel that I sent him initially for his benefit and not mine but by keeping him somewhere he is unhappy where they are expecting too much of him at a young age would be unfair to him. I had spoken to the owner about a previous preschool we took our daughter out of because she was very unsettled and making herself ill holding on to her urine but being made sit on the loo for 30 minutes until I came and got her. Part of the reasons were I felt they were expecting to much and they were constantly telling tales at the door like she couldn't put on her glove or she got up from the table to dispose of her rubbish at lunch when we hadn't asked her to tidy up. All this said in front of my child upsetting her and the new school owner swore they weren't like that at all. Is it all in my head? I feel like trying him for another few days but after that trying elsewhere. He's been very much unlike himself though and I hate to think that someone is being cross with him when he is still young and only settling in and they aren't seeing how he changed from the child who ran in the first 2 weeks and told me he loved school to the child this week who is withdrawn and upset, which just happens to coincide with the preschool doing "lessons" when maybe he would be better in a more play orientated playschool rather than Montessori.

Sorry about my huge post, I tried to condense it but it just came waffling out. Prepared for flaming

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neveradullmoment99 · 15/09/2016 14:14

My 3 children only went on Monday-Thursday. Friday was our time. They are all at school now. It had NO impact at all. They are all well rounded children. Do it.

neveradullmoment99 · 15/09/2016 14:15

Oh and we start school at 5 here. They did this even when they were 4. Learning is SO much more than nursery and school.

Pikawhoo · 15/09/2016 14:15

Trust your instincts; take him out.

I regret not taking my daughter away from a childminder with whom she was clearly unhappy. Instead, I took her for months before looking at her weepy little face in the morning and telling her that we were going home and that she didn't have to go there again.

There was nothing wrong with the childminder; it was just the wrong fit for her at the time. She is now thriving at a very play-centred nursery.

You know your child; trust your instincts -- but don't be put off other preschools, because he might find a different one is a much better fit.

Vandree · 15/09/2016 14:18

This feels like therapy. Thank you all. I think I will see how he gets on tomorrow and monday and if hes still not happy keep him out until January. I did feel very pressured to send him and its awful seeing your happy child become withdrawn. Its not cheap either and could be better spent on other things. He spent most of today glued to me telling me he wasn't going back. He did enjoy his time before the lessons kicked in so hopefully a more play orientated place will suit better.

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neveradullmoment99 · 15/09/2016 14:20

Sorry...he is only 2???? That is the way they acted towards your ds? He isnt happy? Take him out. Plenty of time to go to nursery. He is still very young. Why not take him out and find something he likes like art classes. Have him home with you, do a couple of clubs and by the time he is 3 or even a bit older, go to a different nursery.

neveradullmoment99 · 15/09/2016 14:22

and I am a teacher!
We push children to 'achieve' far too early. He is still little.

Vandree · 15/09/2016 14:22

Pikawhoo, thats tough. Its hard to know though if its the separation thats upsetting them than the environment though so dont feel bad.

Never, when I had 2 in playschool at the same time we used to sneak off every other friday and do something together. I usually had to bribe them as they never wanted to miss a day. They are still the same in school now. Snowday or feeling sick, nope huge tears over staying home.

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KondosSecretJunkRoom · 15/09/2016 14:23

Save your money and tell your mother to naff off. How does she think he got so advanced after all? That was on your watch , thanks very much.

Vandree · 15/09/2016 14:24

Never, thank you I know its silly but seeing your posts make me feel better about my decision. Hearing someone tell my 2 year old they were cross with him when he just acted as any other kid would upset me.

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Witchend · 15/09/2016 14:25

I would suspect the he won't be laying with that toy fir a few days is either it won't be out (preschools often rotate toys) or that it is very popular and so it's on a rota.

I would go against the grain and say that it sounds like he could do with his own peers to interact with.
I've seen this with younger siblings where they seem to get on better with their siblings' friends. It hasn't always ended prettily.
You ser when a 3yo is in with a group of 14yos they treat him special. They let him get away with things that they wouldn't another 14yo. But the 3yo sees then as his friends.
So he assumes that friends will treat him like that.
So if a friend of the own age says "no, you've had the toy it's my turn" then that is totally unfair and they can't possibly be a friend because friends always let him have it fir as long as he wants etc.
I have seen several times it going from mum saying "oh he's so sweet, he hangs round with the older ones. They look after him. He calls then his friends." To
"I can't understand it. He doesn't have any friends. He was so good with people when he was little."

You see we can all be good with people who give in to us. It's the learning to deal with people who don't that is difficult. And the earlier they learn to do the latter the better it is for all concerned.

Minisoksmakehardwork · 15/09/2016 14:26

If you don't need to send your ds to preschool, I'd wait until his free funding kicks in and look around in the meantime. Find somewhere you like and that you think your ds will be happy. It sounds like you've tried montissori Preschool's before and not been overly happy. The name is a brand and ethos. Just because some people like how they do things doesn't mean everyone does.

Enjoy the time you have before your lo needs to be in school.

Stevefromstevenage · 15/09/2016 14:31

Are you in Ireland? I would take him out. He had plenty of socialising at home send him again next year. I don't think there is a thing wrong with him. He is acting his age.

dodobookends · 15/09/2016 14:32

You mum thinks you will make him gay with all the female influence? Er... what?!!!

Shantotto · 15/09/2016 14:33

Take him out! Sorry to say this but your Mim sounds a bit bonkers, listen to her opinions but do what you think is right!

I think for Christmas you should buy him an Elsa dress. Grin

Goingtobeawesome · 15/09/2016 14:52

Take him out
Like took DD out of play school after five months as they were rubbish with her and again out of nursery as it wasn't for her. Had five months at home before reception and we were both much happier.

Staff telling you she got cross and what to do would annoy me as well as your DS is fine so I'd take him out for that too.

Obsidian77 · 15/09/2016 14:55

What has the school said to you about how they intend to help him settle in?

blankmind · 15/09/2016 15:01

1)Take him out.

  1. Stop listening to your Mum.

  2. Rely on your own instincts, he's your child.

Rinse and repeat.

sonjadog · 15/09/2016 15:05

I agree with Witched here. I was going to write something similar, but she put it much better than I could. I agree strongly that he needs to learn to relate to people his own age. However, he doesn´t need to do it right now in the next few months. Take him out and send him to the place you´d like him to go after Christmas. But I would make it more of a priority to put him in situations where he has to interact with his peers at that point.

jay55 · 15/09/2016 17:39

He's two and he's your baby, enjoy the time with him.

Vandree · 15/09/2016 17:40

Witched and sonjadog, he has siblings that range from 6 to 10. He has 5 cousins the same age as him that he interacts with weekly. He plays with the kids at the school hall everyday when we hang around for an hour between collections. He goes (or did go) to a playgroup for his age on thursdays. He is able to interact and play with a whole range of ages. I don't agree at all that he has a problem mixing with his own peers. They are only 2 or going 3 in a few months. At that age they usually play beside each other , its a bit early to be worrying about "friends". I could say for my next youngest who was the baby until he came along that she would have problems mixing with her peers because she only played with older boys and was going to a girls school (and girls were stupid and she herself was a boy not a girl(her words)) but shes a large group of friends and can mix with older children and younger as well as her peer group. His problem is that he wants to play shopkins or barbies/trains with the kids his own age where as they are shy and stuck to their parents or just want to potter around, so he gets bored and either plays by himself or looks to join in games being played by older kids. Anyway he will have a full year of preschool before school and I dont have worries there. I do have worries that he is very unhappy in the particular preschool he is in and it might not be a good fit.

Yes I am totally aware my mam is a bit bonkers and has bonkers ideas. He is just as happy in a tutu while his sisters go to ballet as his is digging in the muck and playing football in said tutu. He already has appropriated one of his sisters elsa dresses, he likes wearing while on his tractor singing "let it go" at the top of his lungs :)

He has been like the antichrist today. We had to go to his school where ballet was on today and he was inconsolable at the thoughts of going anywhere near it. Once we were there he spent the whole 50 minutes and the walk home crying for some reason or another. Its very unlike him. Im sure if he was the same in monti yesterday they thought he was a total brat Sad

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SaucyJack · 15/09/2016 17:55

Hmm. You might not think he has a problem with his peers, but when you have a child who is significantly younger than the rest of the family you do need to be very careful that they don't end up being the spoilt family pet. I have exactly the same situation myself (DDs of 11, 9 and 2) so it's quite easy to recognise in some of your comments.

However, he is only 2. And that particular nursery sounded terrible.

Meh. Find somewhere else in a few months.

eyebrowsonfleek · 15/09/2016 17:57

There's no point in persevering unless you need the childcare. I'd try again in Sept 2017 or Jan 2018.

Stop being blackmailed by your mum. It sounds like he has a fantastic social life with lots of siblings and cousins.

AppleAndBlackberry · 15/09/2016 18:01

I really liked our Montessori preschool, but the teacher who spoke to you and was cross with your child doesn't sound very good. I never had an experience like that, the staff at ours were very gentle about guiding children to a different activity if the child already playing with something didn't want to share. I wouldn't feel bad about pulling him out and starting a different one after Christmas if you're not happy. If you want to stick with it I would try to get a bit more detail from him about what he wasn't happy about and maybe try to observe a session or two and see if you can get a bit more understanding of the problem.

minipie · 15/09/2016 18:06

If the playschool your other DCs loved has a place for him in January then pull him out of this (slightly horrid sounding) place and send him there in January. No brainer.

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