to think SUGAR not fat causes heart disease and obesity

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I've already posted here but think this is subject is very important that needs more traffic and discussion

I recently watched a good documentary on Amazon The Sugar Film. He swapped his normal diet which included natural fats, avacado, nuts and fish for food labelled healthy or diet.

He consumed around the same calories as he always had. He put on 15lbs with diet industry food, looked and felt awful and had the beginning of fatty liver disease. All in 6 weeks.

Very interesting watch.

I made an interesting observation about this yesterday. For breakfast DD usually has porridge made with whole milk. She usually gets to lunch time without needing anything else to eat. Yesterday we had run out of oats so she had cornflakes instead. She was starving all day. She requested an apple at 9am then was still hungry so we had toasted muffins. At lunch time she put away 2 helpings of carrot & lentil soup with wholemeal toast and a tangerine then had her usual snack at about 3.30. That normally keeps her going until dinner but she was asking for food again at 4.30.
She doesn't normally keep asking for food like that, I'm sure it was because cornflakes are basically rubbish carbs instead of oats which a nice and filling and slow-release.

Disagree about the media, hack mum. There was a huge fanfare about the study last year that was widely reported as absolving sat fats. There was much less of a fanfare a week later when the authors of that study had to release a 2nd press release saying that wasn't what they said.

There is a huge anti-sugar bias in reporting at the moment because it sells. Any study that paints saturated fats as bad seems to get a lot less airtime.

It seems to me that there's a difference between the article I posted and the one the OP posted immediately above it. I don't think that people reading those stories would get the same impression even though they are reporting the same story.

"Disagree about the media, hack mum."

So what I said was:
"What's clear from that article is that the problem isn't just to do with irresponsible media reporting."

So you think it is just to with irresponsible media reporting? That the scientific and medical community hold no responsibility at all? That 30+ years of advice to avoid dietary fat is entirely to do with the media?

I think if you read the link to the long read I posted, you'll find that's not the case.

My point is the advice to avoid dietary fat, in particular saturated fats, isn't totally erroneous. The science is more complicated than that.

It's not as simple as sugar equals bad, sat fat equals good. Too much of either will increase the risk of obesity and associated complications.

I did read the guardian article. It's exactly the type of reporting I was talking about.

A few years ago my mum gave me my grandma's cookbook. I can't use it. Almost every recipe is crammed with sugar and butter. My grandma actually cooked from this cookbook for her family, and no one was overweight, even though they must have been eating more than 3000 calories a day, as far as I can tell. They had a farm and did lots of physical work. They must have walked the equivalent of several miles a day. There was very little sitting around except on Sundays.

I keep hearing people saying that we need to reduce our calories, but when I consider how my grandparents lived, the main difference seems to be that we eat a little bit less and are much much less active. So I'm not worried about sugar or fat in particular - I just don't see where I'd find the time to get as much exercise as my grandma.