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To tell her it's not her business

55 replies

R2G · 07/09/2016 16:47

Ex didnt pay child maintenance for several years when we divorced.
I eventually went to the CSA.
We both now have new partners. I have had to communicate my childcare arrangements via her for several years - at his ExP request. Every arrangement made this year has been rearranged time wise or cancelled.
He has now had a letter about the new CSA as have I. I plan to pay the £20 to them for then to calculate his payment, but then he pays it me direct. However, if he defaults it is a legally binding arrangement rather than our own private arrangement.
She texted me to ask me to speak with him today. I had already told her months ago that it was a very emotive topic and therefore I did not want to discuss money at all with her/ him and would always go through another agency (I could have gone on to say why, him not paying, his family telling me to starve and then I'd come running back, him holding ten pounds up and telling me to say please, him refusing to come to his sons party unless I paid his petrol etc, me being awarded a small amount at first by csa after several years of nothing and him laughing not to spend it all at once). I didn't go into that just said I don't want to discuss money with her. Him.
Anyway, she has then texted me her opinion that I need to grow up, I should make it direct with him and there would be no issue, I'm wasting public resource etc.
I texted her that it was actually nothing to do with her so I didn't need her thoughts on the topic - she feels it is as it is their family money and so she can say what she wants.
She has now blocked me and my ex has sent a message basically telling me how upset she is, how all she's tried to do is help, how she and her son give up a day a month with him while he sees my son and I needed to respect that's a big ask and be grateful.
AIBU to tell her it was nothing to do with her and I didn't want her opinion on my financial arrangement after telling her many times I would use CSA rather than negotiate a direct arrangement with them.

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DixieNormas · 07/09/2016 22:19

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R2G · 07/09/2016 22:31

Yes Blueturtle he enjoys seeing him but does sometimes get upset. I've been trying to put up with all this eg communicating through her at his request to keep things going for my son.

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mineofuselessinformation · 07/09/2016 22:47

Yy, tell her that you won't communicate with her in future, and that ex can contact you via an email address - set one up that is only for him.
They're a pair of twats.

R2G · 07/09/2016 23:28

[email protected]
Yes I find the texts invasive when I'm at work and affects my performance. Email would work better. It's so frustrating as it didnt have to be like this - they think they are so right and I'm awkward/ rude/ childish etc. I just needed to hear ITS NOT YOU IT'S THEM.

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RubbleBubble00 · 08/09/2016 00:36

ok they are arsey but can see how she has an opionion since you have been dealing with her exclusively when it comes to your son.

Either ignore texts and just carry on with the maintenance arragments you have planned

Inertia · 08/09/2016 06:36

Sounds like they are trying to bully you into calling off the CMS claim. If she contacts you again, I would just say that there is nothing to discuss as everything is now in the hands of official agencies.

LineyReborn · 08/09/2016 06:47

When a grown woman tells another woman to 'grow up', she is (a) projecting, and (b) too dim to realise that.

It's not you, OP, it's them.

Brown76 · 08/09/2016 06:53

It's not you, it's them. You are being very fair and not childish.

tofutti · 08/09/2016 06:57

Wow, you certainly dodged a bullet there, OP. He sounds like a total bastard. I'd pity his partner.

Just wanted to add another 'it's not you, it"s them'. they need to do the growing up.

bluebell34567 · 08/09/2016 07:05

its not you, its them.
they are not people to argue or make a discussion, you cant win.
keep official.

MsJamieFraser · 08/09/2016 07:11

I'd be sending a very strong worded text.

I'm sorry she has to give up 12 days a year so our son can spend time with his father, the other 353 days seems so potful in resemblance doesn't it?

I'm only discussing OUR SONS maintenance through a third party, past dealings with yourself in this matter has proven itself otherwise. From now on, we will only speak via email, I will not tolerate written abuse any longer!

eddielizzard · 08/09/2016 07:12

wow. what an arse.

i wouldn't talk to him via text anymore. set up an email just for him, and only look at it periodically, when you're in control of it. or get a friend to read them first and tell you only what you need to know. definitely go through cms.

MsJamieFraser · 08/09/2016 07:12

*pityiful

trafalgargal · 08/09/2016 07:26

Clearly she has no idea how difficult he is capable of making things .....she'll find out in time.
None of her business whether you choose to use CMS or not (obviously your ex knows why but is choosing not to tell her the truth) . I'd insist on email contact only ...or get a payg cheap phone just for them and just check for texts every couple of days and when your child is with them for emergencies (personally I'd want them to be able to call in emergency when son is with them so would go the phone route).

I wouldn't engage with her and would just say "I have good reasons to use CMS and the decision is now made " and nothing more. You have no need for further explanation no matter she thinks otherwise. She'll work it out eventually sadly for her no doubt.

flumpybear · 08/09/2016 07:33

They're trying to manipulate you - ignore and carry on as you want to - he's burnt his bridges by his previous behaviour he has himself to blame, not you!

Amalfimamma · 08/09/2016 07:47

One day a Month? So selfless, so giving, such a big ask.

OP do yourself and your son a favour. Tell your ex, his OP and her son to fuck off to the other side of fuck and then fuck off a bit more just to be sure that they've fucked the fuck off.

Do everything through the CSA, tell him to contact you only via text (so it's written) about seeing DS and open a bank account that will be used only for maintenence. That way he can't fuck with you anymore.

Arkhamasylum · 08/09/2016 07:55

I agree. It's not you, it's them.

Isn't it nice that he's found someone to control you by proxy, so he doesn't have the bother?

The email address that a PP suggested is a great idea. Well done for sticking to your guns!

mostlyslowly · 08/09/2016 07:56

As others have said, keep it official, store abusive messages for later use (if necessary) through official channels. No, YANBU, at all. Email is even better than text as it cannot be erased once sent. Set up an e-mail account solely for him/them to use.

CathFromCooberPedy · 08/09/2016 08:05

So he's allowed to find it difficult to talk to you and he gets to decide who you discuss it with?! Please do not engage with her, keep going through the official channels and next time she mentions wasting public money tell her it's there to ensure dead-beat parents pay at least something towards their dc.

To be honest this woman has really pissed me off on your behalf!

bluebell34567 · 08/09/2016 08:12

agree with mostlyslowly, store abusive messages for later use.

NightWanderer · 08/09/2016 08:19

As good as some of the responses here are, you really shouldnt engage. Just imagine you are at work dealing with a difficult customer. Keep communication brief, polite and to the point. It really doesnt matter what they think, you are doing the right thing.

ItWentInMyEye · 08/09/2016 08:20

You're being entirely reasonable, rise above them!

NightWanderer · 08/09/2016 08:20

Also dont explain your reasons. You dont have to. It will just give them extra fuel.

R2G · 08/09/2016 13:44

Thanks all- the thing that really troubles me is how they can think they are so right

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toastymarshmallow · 08/09/2016 14:10

That is how abusive people operate OP. They turn everything onto you, question YOUR behaviour and YOUR motives so that no one is looking at their shitty behaviour.

It is absolutely not you. Your ex sounds vile and it seems as though he and she are perfect for each other. Stay strong and don't let them make you doubt yourself.

I have a similar (though not as bad) situation and I am finally able to see it for what it is. It is liberating, to say the least.