To say if not found the SCHOOL should replace it?

[Arrowfanatic]

Day one of school today. My year one son came out of school crying as his book bag has gone missing. This book bag is an expensive one issued by the school, I cannot afford to replace it.

He had it in school, the teachers were very half hearted about it. Suggested another child took it home, but since there were no bags in the classroom left over this child would presumably have left with 2 bags.

I told the teacher if it wasn't found tomorrow I would expect the school to replace it. The way I see it the bag was sent in to school, I have no control on how the bags are stored in school so why should I have to replace what is an expensive item when it's not my fault & a 5 year old who goes to get his back from the storage & find it missing is also not to blame.

Mama, implementing systems for storing things in the classroom is the teacher's job. Whatever she does with the items, your logic makes it her responsibility if things get lost. And that is ridiculous. She didn't take the bag. She told the students to take home their own things. These things happen, get over it.

They only happen because a) schools insist on everyone having the same stuff and despite the fact book bags are the most pointless item known to man due to the fact everything else needs to be carried separately.... so kids who can't read in the same class as other children potebtionally with the same or very similar names and there dint have a hope in hell of four ding their stuff

And b) because parents can be thieving bastards who don't return stuff and/or are quite happy to swap their kids sainsbury jumper for an expensive logo jumper free of charge

People know what exactly what they are doing when they do that.

Thankfully not everyone is like that but I'd be very sceptical of everyone given the cost of the bag.

And we really need to stop blaming the kids and writing the losses off

If a jumper is left behind it would be where they left it or the name read and put in their drawer or back on the peg.

Or it would be in lost property.

It wouldn't disappear off the face of the earth to never be seen again.

So where is this stuff going?

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My ds had a (compulsory and expensive) sports top go missing once. It turned up a year later on another kid, whose parent had tried to scribble out the name written in sharpie. There is definitely a problem with thieving parents. Yes, the other child took it home accidentally but deciding to keep it wasn't an accident. Ds took his top back. Some people are shameless.

My dd is at an expensive private school and her (optional) book bag is £12.

30!! Wtaf

Yes parents are awful. I do t sew labels in anymore as they are too easy to unpick and replace! I write on the neck label with sharpie in big letters.

Agree with Mamawingingit1234

Arrow fanatic please do update us let us know if found.

I have read the entire thread
I'm not clear if your child's private I suspect it's a fancy an academy chain as tgey charge crazy amounts for uniform and have crazy strict uniform policies.

I can't get over crazy cost
I know it's difficult at drop off/ pickup see what other kids have got.

We on our 3rd primary

My daughter was year 1 at different schools last year she's quite scatty and would frequently lose things.
In the morning they all turned up at classroom and went straight in between 8.50 and 9am.
She has 2nd hand bookbag from charity shop which was old style all other kids had new but we dident know how long we be there so dident want spend a lot so most if her uniform was 2nd hand or cheap they were not at all strict maybe it's because it was infants it was large 3 form intake 75 kids a year.
The teacher and ta always did their best to find lost things at least.

But yes I have been faced by teachers in past who don't give a toss and switch off at 3.30.
Definatly try speak to ta.

Current village primary they all line up in playground in morning and teacher walks them into their class unless child late.
We're their any kids who dident have this bookbag who claimed yours as their own?
Our get let out by teacher and ta sometimes
My son's year 1 and sen and he definitely needs help at end of day gathering his stuff and he's also sensitive .

Does anyone not find transition reception to year 1 hard.

In reception the teacher and ta made sure they ad their stuff that their coats were on.
The parents were welcomed into the classroom
Was speaking to mum yesterday just one child and she's like year 1 is so different and detached as a parent .

Our 1st primary insisted on logo and despite being named got lost and never turned up teachers dident ever care.

Current schools is not perfect but they try to reunite lost stuff most of time.
In year 4 my child got comic relief money stolen from her draw and teacher did nothing suspect which child stole it as she steals from other kids too I was outraged but let in go I wish I hadn't .
Said child got into more trouble stealing kids lunchboxes / stationary and other things last year now they in same class again I'm dreading it.

Our school is not strict on uniform
The uniform providers only do logo jumpers and my 2 girls want cardies.
Most of the girls wear super market generic ones but after 3 years of them being lost
I went to uniform shop ordered a generic navy school cardie and got school logo embroidered my girls have 2 each no other child has these
I also made a stand over bookbags our official one is £4 to replace.
It's compulsory for reception ks1.
We told school cloakrooms lack space do not bring big rucksack
So ordered off amazon quadra junior delux bookbag for £5 in school colour reason done this is official ones are tiny and hold nothing but books and small carry strap and look tatty the one I got has long strap internal pocket with zip and holds jumper ir cardie if they take it off.
Means they hold their own bookbags with shoulder strap and everything fits into 1 bag it's honestly been good investment as made my life easier.
That's my instructions to kids if u take it off put it in your supersize bookbag.
It also holds a lunch box/ books and raincoat I hate it the flap with name underneath is annoying but each child has different keyring.
Also got it embroidered at the sports shop with school name.
Other parents and school must think I'm slightly mad although some parents now want same one
My 3 kids are the only kids in school with these bookbag and cardies are unique.
If another child tried to pinch would be obvious .

I always go lost property day goes missing or day after those first 24hours if missing are crucial if left longer less likely turn up.
I regularly dive in lost property
School office send out texts child X has lost jumper please could parents check.
We also have new fb group
Last year a kind parent helped me reunite 10 year old with nike trainers she took in for pe which felt sure we're pinched and long gone.
Maybe because current school small and I know everyone 99 times its misplaced not nicked but other bigger schools maybe in less afluent areas theft is a bigger problem .
I think neither parents or schools want to think the worst.
But their attitude towards lost property especially if school insist on very expensive logo stuff and teacher implementation of new system

I don't think op expects teacher to pay out own pocket
The school sounds mad with £30 bookbag.
God with 3 kids that's £90!
This school uniform business can be expensive.
I would write letter or email to school in this case if doesn't turn up.
Maybe complain to governors over cost.

My kids have lost many thing's over years all labeled.
They are scatty my year 2 has just misplaced her brand new lunchbox.
Spoke to teacher today not in class ir cloakrooms .
Not in playground checking lot property later .

I think most parents are chilled and label .
We like think will turn up.
But sometimes when expensive things constantly goes messing it grates and we snap we human.

The fact your son crying and teacher made no attempt with him I find upsetting.
If I'm unhappy I complain so I probably am well talked about in staff room.

When I was a primary teacher I had better things to do than bitch about parents in the staffroom. I mean, they only got talked about if it was something huge (like a parent dumping her kid on social services at 4PM saying she couldn't cope with him). So those parents on this thread who are saying "Ha! You'll be te one chatted about n the staffroom!" am sorry to disappoint but - no, they won't be.

That's a big assumption in fact that teachers ever get to the staffroom... I had entire years when I never got a lunch or break and was stuck in my classroom, marking or preparing. It's better now as they have more TAs but still...

And in a case where th eitem is so stupidly pointless and expensive AND the teacher has not engaged with a distressed child... yes, school should pay. It might make a few schools start to think more clearly about the pointlessness of uniforms and crap like matching book bags. Have to admit, when my kids' book bags died - I didn't bother to replace. I doubt I was the Talk Of The Staffroom.

OP, has the bookbag been found?? Awaiting your answer with baited breath.
Both my kids (Yr 6 and Yr4) came home from their first day yesterday, without their jumpers. They both claim to have left them in their classrooms. I've sent them to school today without any, as they can use the ones they have at school.

Of course, I would never have made them go without if it had been cold. Thankfully it's still warm enough to do that.
It's so frustrating. The amount of stuff we go through that is simply misplaced or lost, ALL labled, sometimes more than once, is unreal.
Good luck, I hope it turns up!

Totally agree OP. If something that the school requires your child to have goes missing during school hours then they are responsible for it just as they are responsible for your child during school hours.

£30 for a book bag? It'll turn up. Just use another bag for now till it does. tbh this is so not worth getting stressed over. #Perspective

I wish OP would come back and give us an update.

I can't believe I've just read the entire thread only to find that we don know what happened! Come on OP, update please?

Sounds like you are not used to having a child at school.

I would say things like this and including clothing ( blazer, sports gear) go missing ALL the time. It's pretty normal in my view. Kids leave their bags lying around, another picks it up as it looks like theirs.

It will probably turn up tomorrow or in a few days as usually decent parents realise and return items. We have an email if all class parents and a class rep plus there is lost property and we all email around or if it's still missing post end of week it goes out listed as lost /found section of school newsletter.

I'd say my child's coat as an example has been lost now about 7 times but has always come back to us.

Good luck and please chill out a bit and deal with teachers respectfully as you will get a bad reputation as a difficult patent that won't help your case I'm afraid.

I have a lot of sympathy for the original poster. Quite frankly teachers are in-loco-parentis yet have a disinterested attitude on this sort of stuff. And yes stuff goes missing but the 5 year old is in their charge and a 5 year old can't be expected not to be helped to find their belongings in the first few days of term at going home time. Yes children need to learn to look after their own belongings but I got so fed up I went into the classroom and made sure the book bags stayed in the allotted drawer and the teacher understood that if they took it from there to check the reading record etc they would have to put it back. I even volunteered to go in and do this a few times for all the class until they got the message that they have a responsibility to make it easy for children to learn to look after their stuff by having a place for everything, and ensuring it goes back there so the child can find it again.
And lastly I would say this if the school kick up a stink, point them to the Office of Fair Trading's ruling on school uniform which states that schools MUST attempt to make uniform (and by this meaning required equipment and clothing) affordable. They are supposed to allow parents to be able to buy such items from any supplier and add a badge with the school logo so that the parent is not forced to pay extortionate sums from single supplier sources.

Can you imagine how much it would cost the school to pay for duplicates of items that children have lost?? They are on tight budgets as it is. Funding should pay for educational resources, teacher's time, etc - things that improve the quality of education.

Also, "if it's not found by tomorrow"; do you really think teacher's have time to go seraching around for their pupils' lost items? Several children will complain of losing stuff every single day. I wouldn't want a teacher of my child wasting time searching for lost items. They've got a very demanding time-consuming job to do.

If it was very clearly labelled with his name then it will turn up. Make sure everything is labeled with permanent marker or sewn on labels that won't come off.

MMCQ

You may want to look up the legal definition of "in-loco-parentis".

Can you imagine how much it would cost the school to pay for duplicates of items that children have lost??

An excellent incentive to keep on top of things.

And BTW the child didn't lose the bag.

OhtoblazeswithElvira

I can see the threads now
'the school is refusing to replace my sons £220 football boots, because I can't prove that they cost that much'

But parents do have the budget to keep replacing things?

Despite being unable to do anything more than label.

If people move stuff and it can't be found that's not the parents or the kids fault