HWy owuld you let your teenage daughter out in this weather wiht a short skirt and no tights?

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To school?

Fgs, crazeee... no

I know u cant monitor them when they are outside but, really no tights? school skirt that short?

(shudder at thought of my dd's getting older!!)

I tend to take the line of least resistance with DS already. He is only 5. So I let him decide he doesn't want to wear a coat most of the time. And I let him change into shorts and football shirt after school. Although if he is playing out I make him put trousers on. If he is going out with me I expect certain standards though.

I am still negotiating with 2yo DD though.

Let her freeze. She'll learn!

DD (11) wears footless tights to school (no uniform) and as she leaves after me, I honestly can't have much say on her outfits. She did forget her keys last week and had to sit on the doorstep waiting for me for an hour in her silly little flat shoes, which I keep saying will damager her back and footless tights.

She's been wearing trainers and boots more recently, funnily enough!

DD1 was wearing her trousers to school until the weather got really cold. At that point she changed to her skirt, which is adapted with safety pins to remove the unacceptable pleat. It is also pinned up somehow, not just turned over at the top as mine was. The skirt is a new design, apparently unadaptable by teenagers - time for another redesign! She is 13, a few years ago I was a tutting mum,now I am glad she is happy at school and working well. (And wishing she'd have hot cereal before she leaves..)

Twice recently I have seen teenagers with those sleeveless parka things, wearing I presume a sleeveless top underneath, and a massive scarf round their necks.

DD wouldn't wear a jacket over blazer today (it is bloody freezing!) as she feels "too bunged up!" I wish they didn't wear blazers, then they would have to wear coats.

After a weekend of rows and generally her hating me I must remember not to moan about everything and just save it for the really important things..........even though her skirt is too short, wears too much make up etc etc

make up is negotiable in our house dependant on quarterly school reports.

this one coming has a lot riding on it. i made a deal that she could wear eyeliner only until i get the report - if the report is pants. then bye bye eye liner.

however she re-negotiated and said - if it was good could she be allowed to wear eye shadow?

i said only if "there are no 3s and 4s."

After having a moan about dd's make up she told me you are allowed to wear it in year 9.
She seems to think this means she has to wear it!

It all reminded me of that scene in Clueless when Alicia Silverstone's character comes downstairs in a white minidress and her father says, 'What is that? What hte hell is that?'

And she says, 'A dress.'

And he tells her, 'It looks like your underwear. You're not wearing that. Go upstairs and change.'

You never think you will say it - but you do!

I like your line in bargaining Custy - but how do you stop DD applying makeup after she has left the house?

at the moment i trust her, i don't believe she is decietful when it comes to that - yet!

i do a bag check for books for the next day - i realise she could hide it anywhere. but she's the one doing the negotiating. she wouldnt feel the need to if she was doing it anyway.

it would require too much effort me thinks, with either cleanser hidden or washing of face before coming home from school each day - it's punishment waiting to happen.

besides, if she let me down, i'd bin all the make up.

when I was in school, a girl had been told by her mum that she should wear trousers in the winter because if it is too cold the legs grow chunkier to keep warm
when she told us, there was a big flurry of arriving in trousers to ensure we didnt get chunky legs

Thanks. I am hoping you are still here when my DC reach their teens. You talk a lot of sense!

I'm shocked by how short their skirts are soemtimes. They look like jail bait.

My twins have to wear shorts in this weather to school. One won't pull his socks up to his knees. He looks like William Brown. They've won every rugby match all year. Very tough.

The have to wear shorts? WHY?? Am thinking this may be a private school as they seem to have weird and wonderful uniform policies..

But shorts in the snow.. [shakes head incredulously]. No offence at all meant to you Xenia (re your choice of schools, if this is the case), but I wonder if these schools are aware that such rules are making them come across as thick and odd rather than elite and upper class!!

Well the shorts thing obviously works though because if you take any institution in the UK, board of most big companies, the Cabinet or whatever you'll find more of those people went to private schools and wore shorts in the snow aged 8 than went to their local state school in warmer clothing. Obviously the shorts are the key to future success I suppose.....

me and my parents were watching a young girl walk down a hill which is an unmade road. she was wearing cropped leggings and a pair of slip on wedges and a tiny bomber jacket

We couldn't believe that she hadn't fallen as her heels were quie high.

She looked ridiculous - she'd have looked okay in the spring!

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I vividly remember wearing miniskirts in the snow as a teenager. With tights, not that it made much difference. Let her get it out of her system. Young people don't feel the cold anyway.....

I'd like to see someone dressed like that here at the moment -the snow is deep enough to go over the top of my wellies now!

Although I do remember those imortal words uttered by my father (along with the parent of every teenager in the country) "You're not going out looking like that are you?"

This is just what kids do. I look back at some of the things I used to wear out of the house and can't believe my parents let me! (I was the youngest of three and I think they were very relaxed with me!) They never batted an eyelid. My friend (eldest in her family) was always told she wasn't allowed to wear this or that... consequently she would wear something her mother deemed acceptable and promptly take it off as soon as we were out of the house to reveal something waaaay more slutty than I ever wore (and believe me - I wore some things I shudder to think of on a 14 year old girl now!).

Mum is that you?

Snigger.....remember doing the same thing myself - got cold and sick of getting wet mud up the back of my legs! Let her as long as she's not flashing her knickers.

Maybe she didn't leave the house in that outfit! I used to change on the way to school.