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Luton as an area to move to?

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WoburnSands · 19/08/2016 19:40

Just weighing up different relocation options...any one got any recommendations as to what kind of a place Luton would to be like to live?

My Dad was once warned off going into a pub in Luton as a guy who worked there said it was rough, had a long at my Dad, and obviously decided he didn't think my Dad would handle it - "I wouldn't go in there, mate"! (or words to that effect) How rude!! But that's just one isolated story..what are the house prices and general areas like?

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JayDot500 · 29/08/2018 21:54

I love this. All these people looking down at Luton will be soon saying it's the next insert current gentrification commuter town hotspot because it is inevitable due to its location. Thats if the art scene hasn't already arrived. You might want to get in before flower boxes start replacing the riff raff (I'm sure the population of Luton are mostly decent hardworking people who chose Luton as it was cheap and they too need to get into London for work... unless they were sent there by central London councils who seem them unworthy of a free central London council house) get sent packing elsewhere.

This thread is why people who suffer from gentrification get pissed off with you lot. You hate it until someone else has made it a comfy home.

In my opinion OP, Luton is not wherever these people live perfect, but it is not Beirut. I have visited there. My brother lives there, but I don't live there. Personally, I'm not fazed by a few rough cracks but if you are I'm sure there are plenty of other places (very near by) that you could move to if you can afford it.

Legalegal · 29/08/2018 22:00

I went to Bedford for a job interview and it was like a ghost town hardly anyone around. I came home and said to my husband I prefer Luton and wouldn’t work or live in Bedford. Again it comes down to personal preference and needs. There are other towns I’ve been too due to family business such as Dunstable and Hitchin which are nice. I particularly liked Hitchin it’s a mix of villages and old traditional shops with new but houses very expensive if comparing with Luton. This was highlighted in a program called Location, Location, Location. If you however prefer locations like that I would suggest people look into Barton Le Clay. It’s got more greenery with those small traditional village type shops.

People have also mentioned pubs and bars. Well I have friends going to the ones in Luton and haven’t complained yet. I will say though if you want top clubs then you need to hop on the train to London.

purplelila2 · 29/08/2018 22:02

What @JayDot500 said! Spot on
Its also the inner city council's packing people off to Luton that has upped rents and house prices round here.

Op you need to visit and make your own mind up by seeing how you feel.

The town centre is reasonable a variety of the usual high street shops.
Only downside is the night life and going out I don't find there's much to do round here tbh.

It's not a dump it's got it's fair share of issues just like anywhere.

PookieDo · 29/08/2018 22:03

I wouldn’t live in London either frankly aside from the cost, not everyone likes city life.

I live closer to London than I do Luton but it’s more rural.

There are quite a few large towns like Luton, Stevenage, Harlow that can appear sadly neglected drab grey concrete dreary dirty etc. I for one do not blame the residents! All 3 of those towns look pretty identical and have some kind of reputation, but this is in comparison to the surrounding pretty little market towns and villages. Regeneration is not just sticking new builds on the outskirts of these towns and a Tesco. It is about creating a better living environment for everyone with nice facilities, safer and more appealing and perhaps people would care more and appreciate where they live? So down to councils and planners perhaps

purplelila2 · 29/08/2018 22:08

Luton also has a rich history in hat making and of course Ford.

A lot of houses in the centre and bury park are Victorian some yes are run down others not.
It's got beautiful parks Stockwood and Wardown and Wardown has a beautiful Victorian house that's turned into a museum.

I'm speaking honestly I have never felt unsafe in Luton even when on my own .

PookieDo · 29/08/2018 22:11

You know the roads near the uni, well I parked in the multi-storey and got lost walking my first time - was about 8am on a Saturday or Sunday morning. I walked down a side street and there were lots of boarded up shops, houses etc. Men standing around in huddles, in doorways, staring at me walk past. I did not feel safe. On the way back to the car park by myself in the dark I didn’t either, but I would feel the same in a few towns or cities perhaps.

Unfinishedkitchen · 29/08/2018 22:25

I’ve been to Luton a few times (ex-DP went to uni there so we’d go on nights out). It wasn’t great but it wasn’t terrible either. I also echo PP who said they find Herts and Beds depressing. I think it may be partly to do with the fact that so many of their populations work in London. These areas are probably quiet during the week and they lack their own identities.

Luton is partially a victim of London social cleansing. Many London benefit recipients are sent there by their councils as rent is cheaper. The family of one child in DDs class was given barely any notice to move to Luton. I’ve heard of two other poorer families sent there recently too. DDs school is quickly going from one which was pretty socially mixed to one which is predominantly middle classed so I’m guessing Luton is seeing the reverse?

purplelila2 · 29/08/2018 22:25

@PookieDo I lived in London before moving out I was 17 years old and had got off the bus and was walking alone someone who was sat in a pub garden across the road shouted racial abuse at me and threw stones at me one of the stones hit me hard.

I've not had anything like this in Luton

PookieDo · 29/08/2018 22:29

@purplelila2

I haven’t been to Luton enough like I said, but I’ve had that kind of thing in Harlow which has a similar feel to it. I certainly wouldn’t walk around there at night either

Legalegal · 29/08/2018 22:56

True about the history. Wardown Park apparently one of the top parks in UK. I have not felt unsafe either and I’ve come home with my 2 children at 3am after visiting relatives. Most of u who have mentioned London sending people to Luton for housing is true. I’m on the safeguarding panel for Luton and was talking to the housing director who feels it’s a good thing that more people are coming into Luton. The only disadvantages I see are things like shops/stores closing earlier compared to London, not a lot to do if you want a late night out. However for kids, there are indoor play areas and schools give magazines showing activities all over Bedfordshire and even MK. There are other towns for nights out for the adults such as MK or Watford. If you are looking to move to a peaceful area I’m afraid you will need a car because bus stops are not on every corner like London. Hope all of this helps. Oh and in the old post someone mentioned that their area has M&S food and Sainsbury...so do we in Luton.Wink

Oysterino · 29/08/2018 23:56

As has been said there are parts of Luton that are nice, and the town centre is similarly grim to plenty of others. There are issues with gun crime in areas. It's no longer that surprising to me when I hear of it, which is quite sad. I've never felt any more unsafe visiting or working there than in any other city in the region, but then I've never lived there.

I am surprised to see Leighton Buzzard and Milton Keynes suggested as cheap/affordable options. They're not! Unless you opt for one of the rougher areas - MK certainly has areas that are as deprived as Luton.

If you want the transport links and closeness to big towns and cities, then just look at a map and look at the villages either side of the M1 (and/or railway line) as you go north of Luton. Or whichever artery you want to be near.

None of the villages or smaller towns are cheap, but then it's the South East. However, they are cheaper than Luton, MK, and LB. And miles cheaper than Harpenden or St Albans. Although St A does have some nice areas, and the history is worth visiting, I don't enjoy spending time there. I don't much enjoy Harpenden either because it's so busy and crowded and I find it stressful as a result. LB's centre is nicer IMO than Harpenden's and miles easier for parking, etc. I don't feel harassed in LB.

Generally, the towns/villages with a train station will be pricier than the villages circling a station. E.g. Flitwick has a train station (Bedford-Brighton line), Westoning is a village 5 minutes away, and the motorway another 5 or so minutes. And there are multiple other villages of varying sizes, with varying amenities, in between. Some are pretty much hamlets (but may still have a pub), some have a handful of shops, some have a full high street. There's also Ampthill, which I think has been mentioned. Historic centre, and a Waitrose. Grin

There is a world of different options within reach of Luton, and all with the transport links and closeness to London.

It really depends on what you want. I'm quite happy working, socialising and visiting the big towns/cities, but I would not want to live in them. Whereas I know that's not the case for others.

Several people have described MK as soulless, but I'd disagree. It depends where you base yourself and what you choose to involve yourself in, but a lot of effort goes into creating a sense of community. The way the city was designed means that it's planned as a collection of villages with their own names (hence the above comment about areas of deprivation), all the roads are lined with trees so when you drive around it feels like a really green and leafy area because the houses are hidden, it's filled with parks which are actively managed and offer lots of activities, ...and you can get to Euston station in 35 minutes. But people do keep telling me MK hospital isn't great.

I really like MK and all it has to offer, but I couldn't afford to live there and wouldn't particularly want to (solely because I don't like living in cities). But then there are plenty of separate villages around it if you wanted the best of both. None of the people I know who live in MK would describe it as affordable in terms of house prices, most of them have ended up having to move much further out than they would have liked to be able to afford to live there. And they have decent, well paying jobs. Although I suppose if you're comparing to London or St Albans it is affordable.

I guess if your home is a base and you're happy to travel out to other places to do things then it's different than if you want everything on your doorstep. The newer edges of Dunstable are really nice, have local access to shops and takeaways, and then good transport links to get to bigger/nicer places for other things. Dunstable is more affordable than Luton, LB, MK, and obviously St A and Harpenden, but basically attached to Luton.

I'm not a massive fan of Bedford. Other than the train line it's a pain to get access to motorways, and I hate the town centre with a passion other than if you happen to be right by the river. The outlying Bedford villages are nicer, but I still hate them transport wise. MK is easier than Bedford for travel links.

As for "rough pubs", there was a brawl in one of LB's pubs in the last year which landed a bunch of people in hospital. Pub violence isn't limited to Luton!

Oh, and if you don't already know and end up considering it, the w in Flitwick is silent. Wink

garethsouthgatesmrs · 30/08/2018 00:12

Hi OP, I currently live in Beds and grew up in Herts so I know the area well. My sister lived in st Albans.Without knowing your financial situation and overall priorities its hard to answer you fully but

  1. Luton has stuff going for it but it's not a very picturesque place. If you have to live in the area then at least it's got a theatre, cinema and a decent shopping centre. House prices are the cheapest you are likely to find that close to London. It's generally thought of as a shithole but we travel there from where I live for the theatre sometimes. (I live about 49 mins away) and obviously there's an airport and you can easily commute.
  1. The people suggesting Haarpenden and St Albans are sweet but you are talking a whole different ball game house price wise. I mean literally double the price for an equivalent house. Until recently St Albans was the most expensive place to live outside London. They have good schools and amenities hence the house prices. Personally if I had that kind of money I would live in Cambridge. St Albans is a poor slightly less stinking rich person's Cambridge (imo) and a direct train from Cambridge to London doesn't take much longer. I have worked in two schools in Cambridge and they were both better than any other schools I have worked in since or before.
  1. BEDS as a county is gorgeous and underrated, very rural. Places like Biggleswade have reasonably priced property for that area. It's a rural Market town and there are quite a few around there that you could consider. A bit more expensive to live than Luton but you would have to travel as North as Peterborough or beyond to find anywhere as cheap as Luton.
  1. If you want somewhere bigger than a small market town try Bedford. The river and embankment are beautiful and there are good schools and the town centre is decent. Bedford is great.
Escumator · 30/08/2018 00:28

Omg. U lot on here. Yes luton can be rough. But hesus christ name one place in england that isnt. Racial tension??? Wtf luton thrives off there multicultural community. Men in door ways? Prehaps smile at them and youll see there hunan just like hide ur face pick up your pace and make them feel like there a problem tgen of course these people will be unhappy. Leighton buzzard IS lovely ive lived both luton and Leighton and would pick leighton. But would rather live luton tgan london/mancs/bham/watford/mk/leicester/brighton etc. Because its home. And every one makes u feel welcome.

MervynBunter · 30/08/2018 00:28

I wouldn't live there if you paid me. Someone upthread said all of south Herts. is depressing and I agree. It's better than Hemel but that's about all you can say in favour of it.

Aintnothingbutaheartache · 30/08/2018 00:30

Fuck no

garethsouthgatesmrs · 30/08/2018 00:32

every one makes u feel welcome

I think you should be visiting these places OP. I love in a place where everyone makes you feel welcome and it really was apparant as soon as i set foot in the first pub. Write a shortlist and spend a weekend in the area. There are some lovely hotels

purplelila2 · 30/08/2018 06:16

@Legalegal slightly off topic but as you're on the safeguarding panel - there's a shortage of affordable houses here are there any plans to do anything about it?
There's also a shortage of homes full stop.

Prices round here although still 'affordable' have increased so much. I bought a 2 bedroom in 2011 and it's gone up in value by over 100k .And if I'm honest I were to buy my house now and today's prices I wouldn't be able to afford to.
To rent a similar it's 800 to 950 which is a lot!

Morethanthisprovincallife · 30/08/2018 06:59

All the posters saying it's soulless, where did you like in the UK

Legalegal · 30/08/2018 08:34

I’m afraid I’m not on the housing panel safeguarding is to discuss issues to keep adults and children safe in Luton. I just happened to mention that the director felt that people being sent from London was a good thing.

The people mentioning “men in doorways” I find funny since I have never come across anything like it. It’s yes a very diverse town and no town in the uk will ever be free from some sort of prejudice. With regards to Luton not being picturesque...you need to drive around to see the picturesque areas as mentioned in my earlier post. I find Dunstable less appealing but depends on individual taste and needs.

lloydee1983 · 16/02/2019 17:00

I live in Hemel and I think Luton is awful. Dunstable tho, I actually prefer it to Hemel by quite a stretch. Just that Dunstable is very small. I find the people there very friendly, I don't find people so friendly in Hemel and as for Luton the people there are 10 times worse .

ednclouda · 16/02/2019 17:50

derby/Nottingham relocation we start viewing houses v soon any tips for good/bad areas

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