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Original poster

called lazy by nurse

52 replies

flowershow09 · 17/08/2016 14:28

I came in this morning about 11 o clock and a car was parked on the pavement blocking my drive, so I parked my car next to it. Then I saw a nurse come out of another house so I said excuse me don't park there, I can't get in. The nurse laughed. She then drove off and had her windows down and I heard her say on the phone 'some lazy cow had to walk a whole 100 yards.'

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Just5minswithDacre · 17/08/2016 15:08

Oh come off it Bum. The HCA was rude to OP. Stop trying to summon up wafty Florence Nightingale visions. She was just as likely to have been dressing a wound as anything else.

YorkieDorkie · 17/08/2016 15:09

She was rude, she left, move on. She probably won't park there again.

Just5minswithDacre · 17/08/2016 15:10

Oh sorry, Bum I didn't quite absorb what you said about it being a RL situation and the loss of your neighbour Flowers

These threads always end with industrial scale projection, which is what I saw.

MindSweeper · 17/08/2016 15:12

calamity a band 4 support worker is very different to what I thought we were talking about, which is support workers in general who are mostly band 2 at best (obviously not actually banded though because most are from private companies not NHS) - the vast majority with minimal training and there to give basic but fundamental care such as getting people washed and dressed.

Even still, the culpability and responsibility is very different between a band 4 and a registered SN

Whathaveilost · 17/08/2016 15:15

Seems odd.
So she got in her , presumably goth et seat belt on, started the car, dialled a number waited for them to answer and started the conversation with 'some lazy cow'. And you heard all this?
Blimey Batfink has nothing on you

calamityjam · 17/08/2016 15:20

The point I was making was that people sometimes have the attitude that hcas and support workers are poorly paid, badly trained dogsbodies. However that is not always the case and sometimes the "nurse" who comes to re-catheterise you/take your blood/assess and dress your wounds, are also hcas and support workers. You wouldn't know this from their uniform in a lot of cases. The fact was she was rude and she could've been a rude nurse or a rude support worker. The comments of "I bet she was a hca, not a nurse", could be seen as offensive to some.

Butteredparsn1ps · 17/08/2016 15:21

Care workers usually have a uniform tunic that is easily mistaken for a nurses uniform. They are unqualified and poorly paid, usually working for an agency and often on zero hours contracts.

They provide an essential service to people who need assistance with washing, dressing, toiletting, eating, drinking and medication. They are however not Nurses.

It might sound like splitting hairs, but Nurses are qualified and regulated by their professional body. This means they run a serious risk of sanctions if they are overheard being rude. It also means they are less likely to do it.

Care workers are not regulated and do not face the same consequences.

I'm sorry she was rude OP, how is your neighbour doing?

ABloodyDifficultWoman · 17/08/2016 15:23

Rude she may have been - but not to the OP who shouldn't have been earwigging. How she heard all that from a distance above the noise of a car engine remains a mystery but far be it from me to doubt the story Grin

TheNaze73 · 17/08/2016 15:28

I can't see why the OP is getting a hard time here by some. Some tool has blocked her in. Regardless of her profession & the validity of hearing a negative comment, I think they were wrong to do it

Original poster
flowershow09 · 17/08/2016 15:31

the windows of her car were open

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purplevase4 · 17/08/2016 15:32

it's not illegal to park over someones drive if you're not in it

it's not as simple as that. You might have a garage with a car in it.

Just5minswithDacre · 17/08/2016 15:44

It might sound like splitting hairs, but Nurses are qualified and regulated by their professional body. This means they run a serious risk of sanctions if they are overheard being rude. It also means they are less likely to do it

Yes, that was my reasoning.

diddl · 17/08/2016 15:57

Do you have a garage, Op?

reikizen · 17/08/2016 16:04

just wondering if you come on mumsnet every time someone is rude to/about you or only people in uniform? Just shrug and get on with your day ffs. What does it matter if she was a nurse/hca or whatever, what difference does it make?

Sugarlightly · 17/08/2016 17:38

Speaking as a nurse here, I've certainly met nurses who will park over people's driveways and then be rude about it.

Don't assume that because someone isn't registered with a professional body, they are more likely to be rude - nurses lose their NMC PIN every day. Hmm

TheBouquets · 17/08/2016 17:57

Strangely, a nurse parked partially over my drive last night. She is a local and her driving leaves everything to be desired. She definitely bumped my parked car some time ago and is rumoured to have hit a few more locally. She did advise me that she hit my car. I was not at fault at all I was in bed ill at the time. She paid for the repair. She does not seem to have any awareness of the length and breadth of her car. Her inability to be accurate with her car does not fill me with faith in the nursing profession. She also parks in a disabled space.
I think nurses are changing their natures and not for the better.

Squabblesallaround · 17/08/2016 18:24

In our area, Some private agency hca's have a uniform that is the same as our hospital band 7's. Other hcp's are aware of this but general Public usually are not so some confusion can arise! Again, where we are the DN team are all issued with access all area residential passes so registered nurses do not have issues with parking

steppedonlego · 17/08/2016 19:00

Please can all of you who know so well what a HCA does please speak to my manager? I, as a HCA working in a mental health hospital, write care plans, attend ward meetings, deliver medication, take vital signs, make notes on clients presentation, liase with the doctor regarding essential care, I have even been asked to take control of the management of the entire hospital on a night shift when a suitable nurse was not available including assessing patients for admittance and staff rotation. Please can you tell my manager that I should only be washing and dressing patients as it would make my life much easier Hmm

Justanothernumber2 · 17/08/2016 19:01

You're still not a nurse. That's intended factually, not offensively. Some of your duties may mirror that of a nurse but without the qualification you are not a nurse.

I don't see why it matters anyway!

Dontyoulovecalpol · 17/08/2016 19:03

Today 14:31 ABloodyDifficultWoman

Call 101 and log it. And report her to Ofsted. And the NMC. And the Police. And I'd probably call 101 again just to be sure.

grin

You forgot social services. Call social services too OP

steppedonlego · 17/08/2016 19:09

justanother indeed, I wasn't intending to say that I was a nurse, but I do take offence when people assume that I would be more likely to behave unprofessionally, that I am underpaid and likely to "kick the cat"

Also if you think any HCA would find it easy to find work without a good solid reference, which he or she wouldn't get in the case of professional misconduct, you're kidding yourself.

MadisonMontgomery · 17/08/2016 19:14

Okay yes, she was rude. However, district nurses have to do tons of visits every day - they need to park near the homes they are visiting so they have a decent amount of time to spend with all their patients.

lljkk · 17/08/2016 19:37

She was a bitch but it is waste of your time to ponder what some idiot said.

MindSweeper · 17/08/2016 19:37

I would say your manager is taking the absolute piss out of you steppedon unless you're getting paid band 4, and even then it's a stretch. Nurses have 3 years training to ensure they're doing all that properly, efficiently and effectively so unless you've had training adequate to that and are getting paid properly for it... if you were I'd expect you to be a AP. Even AP in my trust can't do all that you're being allowed to do.

And I'm not sure why you're comparing yourself with home care assistants. Completely different. And I've done both. Basically anyone can walk into a home care assistants job, bar having a criminal record, even without a scrap of training (even general stuff like moving and handling). That's not to say the job isn't an important one, it is.

And it's much easier to get another job if you're private company home carer after being sacked than it is for an RN with a pin to protect. You only need to go on some of the HCA facebook groups to see this.

MindSweeper · 17/08/2016 19:39

I have even been asked to take control of the management of the entire hospital on a night shift when a suitable nurse was not available including assessing patients for admittance and staff rotation

And that is the job of a band 7. Seriously dude, you need to speak up about this. It's not fair on you.

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