Why do we think these people need support or are ill

[pleasemothermay1]

Thinking about responses by posters when a parent hurts or abuses there child

They they are ill or are in need of support is it that as parents our selfs we just can't accpect or get our head round that not all parents want the best for there children

And actually a lot of these people were often known to ss did have support often lied or manuliputed and rejected the support

Some parents are ill some parents just don't know any better but some parents are bad

It's like when women choose there toxic relationship over there children

They may be being controlled but this is not always the case I think it may just be for everyone else not being able to say they are being made to act like this is almost to awful to think they might want to stay with a pedofile
Rather than have there children .

I think the OP has a valid point. As a society we do see crime/evil as being in a very different box from ill health/damaged personality. One is to be punished and reviled, the other is to be helped and sympathised with. But the fact is that the vast, vast majority of people who do bad and evil things are either ill or the product of an environment or upbringing that is deeply problematic, to say the least. I've volunteered in prisons (not that I'd characterise all prisoners as evil) and the incidence of MH problems, abusive upbringings and illiteracy is (from my anecdotal perspective) so so high. Ultimately I think that what the OP is expressing is dissatisfaction with the fact that some people are BOTH victims in every sense possible AND criminals and abusers who have done terrible things for which they have to be held accountable. It's just one of those tragic and confusing facts of life. I think it's good to remember that most of us are probably capable of crime/evil or would be if we'd been less lucky.

I don't like that you make a connection room between children being abused and Illness.
I don't know whether this is because I suffer from mental illness, and take it somewhat personally, but you know, I think people with disabilities of some sort often do just as good a job (sometimes) better than parents without disabilities.

For example, child a comes from a family where there is no disability, child a goes to school with a dirty face. No one thinks much more of it than maybe they had one of them mornings where the child ate in a messy manner and it wasn't realised because one reason or another.

Child b comes from a family where there is disability with one of the parents. Child b has a dirty face. There will always be a question as to whether the parents are "coping"
For examples like this, everything has to be as perfect as I can get it, because I can't bare for people to believe in some way or another my illness is having any effect on my child

I think that the women who allow their children to be harmed either have incredibly low self esteem and that the confidence they gain from their partner or whoever is the abuser. Or they are simply quite evil.
I couldn't imagine allowing the abuse of any child. Let alone the one I gave birth to.

The vast majority of poor parents aren't bad people. If we look for reasons why people neglect or abide their children we can intervene, and hope to break the cycle for the next generation and provide parents with help to prevent them entering the spiral of having more and more babies who are subsequently removed because the core issues have not been addressed.