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To think Rio has been shocking

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pleasemothermay1 · 13/08/2016 09:21

There is hardly any one in the seats even the foot ball and brizallians love foot ball

The pools are green no one can say why I hear a rugby athlete got injured they got lost on route to the hospital in abulance 😳

There are issues with transport

The ioc have said this has been one of the most diffcult games in a long time

Even the opening was very poor I no they didn't have much money so why not just do a carnival instead they tried to copy ours though the ages sort of thing but not very well play to your strengths I think some samba and carival theam would have been awesome.

Also some govermnet staff have not been paid I fear that it's unlikely the para games will be much better
Contrast to London were there wasn't a ticket going begging even for the para games

I think it's all well and good allowing emerging countries to have this but they must be able to afford it and also show that the tickets will be pitched at a price of the avarge wage

amd also that the cost of the games is not at the expense of paying your govermnet staff there will be no legacy at least we have had the good sense to sell some of our ventunes I don't think there is any vunue sitting empty

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Senac32 · 14/08/2016 15:08

Apart from all the points above, the Olympics can act as inspiration for young people. That's how it affected me (many years ago.)
If it wasn't for sport we would all be fat lazy couch potatoes.
So just watch the amazing athletes and admire!

manicinsomniac · 14/08/2016 15:11

A lot of unfair things said about the Brazilians here. And many of them were also said about London. Some people seem to have selective memories.

Inequality of opportunity:
Does nobody remember the comments about the irony of building the Olympic park in Newham, within spitting distance of desperately deprived neighbourhoods that had very little chance of accessing the opportunity to succeed in sport at a high level or even be able to watch? Of course Newham isn't a favela but London has a rich-poor divide just like Rio's.

Seats:
There was loads of criticism about empty seats in London. I went to Handball and there were some people without seats for that match trying to argue their in through the door near me, saying ' you don't want the tv cameras picking up those empty seats do you?' It got them in! There was also bad congestion through the public transport system. I remember walking for an hour and a half to avoid the worst of it.

I am regretting not going to Rio (usually go to Brazil for part or all of the Summer but didn't this year as I thought it would be too expensive and crowded and I didn't want to miss most of the events in an attempt to see just one) - turns out I could probably have watched loads.

I have been talking to my Brazilian family and friends about the problems and accusations and have got these responses (some translated so sorry if they sound stilted):

It is an opportunity that the government used to steal more, the river is not prepared mainly because of the violence. We are not satisfied with the government, but since you will have the Olympics, I hope it's good for the athletes and visitors. The athletes of England are staying in belo horizonte and liked it a lot :)) I'm going to two days of soccer games in belo horizonte

It's definitely something not appropriate for the moment we're facing in our country... Crisis, corruption scandals, violence, unemployment increase and so on... It's only a way to distract people from the real situation we're living now. Now, almost 100% of us will forget the reality and paralise our lives 'coz of these days of games, and then when the entertainment is over all the bad things will be already forgotten and vanished from our worries... I love sports, like a lot to watch the games, but once again we're will end acting like just a small and insignficant piece of this terrible scenary of our governors

I think the real issues about olympics/world cup are the resources deviated from health/security/education. Other than that, I think the games are fairly well organized, people attending the games are safe due to the heavy security increase, the routines in the city are changed in order to avoid traffic congestion. It brings a patriotic feeling after all and I think sometimes international media is a bit harsh and picture problems a little worst than they actually are. Not all the coast in Rio is infected with garbage, the mosquitoes are less frequent due to winter time, the athlete villages all have minor problems, wherever in the globe you are. I'm fully aware of all the socio-political issues of my country, but I think people should also stand for what we've accomplished.

emotionsecho · 14/08/2016 15:13

Interesting post Rainbunny, I recall that hosting the Olympics all but bankrupted Mexico when they held them. The sheer scale of the sums of money required really needs to be looked into, plus it should be part of the bid process that all venues constructed have to be built in such a way that they can be easily converted or used after the Games have gone.

manicinsomniac · 14/08/2016 15:19

Also, I think we forget the role of success in enthusiasm. I am not a particular sports fan but I love the Olympics - I will happily watch any sport during Olympics time, even if I have no idea about it and wouldn't watch it any other time. 2012 was the first time I got so interested. Yes, part of it was because it was in London and the atmosphere was contagious, it was easy to feel patriotic, competitive, passionate etc. BUT I don't think I would have been so keen if we hadn't done so well and got do many medals.

Brazil were 22nd on the medal table last night. I believe they are (disagreeing with another poster's accusation) more visible and successful than they have seemed previously (admittedly basing that mainly on the gymnastics where they haven't had much beyond that brother and sister before but did really well this time and have put a lot into their programme). But they aren't winning.

I think you need medals for Olympic fever and it's totally natural for the population not to want to pay large amounts of money to watch events in which their own country is not high profile and does not win. Things like Super Saturday 2012 were incredibly exciting for British people - for people from Kiribati ... probably not so much.

I know the ethos of the Olympics isn't just about winning - but for mass enthusiasm to catch on, I think it's needed.

Having said all that, I'm really sad to hear that programmes to give free tickets to schools haven't been able to follow through. That would have been in the true spirit of the Olympics and inspired the next generation.

Ladylisa · 14/08/2016 15:20

What's this got to with parenting? Get a grip of yourself

emotionsecho · 14/08/2016 15:20

Manic sounds like your friend is implying that the Brazilian government is doing a bit of a 'bread and circuses' attempt to distract the population and the rest of the world from the real problems endured by Brazilians.

DesolateWaist · 14/08/2016 15:24

What's this got to with parenting? Get a grip of yourself

Who said it had anything to do with parenting?

manicinsomniac · 14/08/2016 15:33

emotions - yes, he is. And he might be right, I don't know enough to say (he certainly hates the govt!). But I think very much the same criticisms as all 3 of those comments were made of London 2012.

GranddaddyRay · 14/08/2016 15:35

There are always problems and there will always be problems with the olympics. It is a massive event with so much to be organised that I'm surprised they run as smoothly as they do.
I SAY HATS OFF TO THE SUCESSFULL PARTS and hopefully the bits that didn't go so well will be better next time.

Oh and one green pool out of the many there, that could easily have been due to one persons soap or more likely deoderant feeding the algae and it wasn't caught in time. If that is the case please don't blame Rio.

emotionsecho · 14/08/2016 15:36

manic yes I remember all the criticisms leading up to the 2012 Games.

Lweji · 14/08/2016 15:36

We are talking about a poor country here.

Not exactly poor, but certainly in the middle of an economic crisis, as well as political, and with huge social inequalities.
It has only seen a proper middle class developing in the last decade or so.

emotionsecho · 14/08/2016 15:37

sorry that should say "all the same criticisms...."

Craigie · 14/08/2016 15:38

Yawn.

annoyedofnorwich · 14/08/2016 15:39

Love this thread purely for the many entertaining new words I've learnt. Defunked, for example!

ilovesooty · 14/08/2016 15:39

Why should it have anything to do with parenting?

QueenoftheAndals · 14/08/2016 15:40

Oh and one green pool out of the many there, that could easily have been due to one persons soap or more likely

Let's face it, with the amount of fake tan Tom Daley and co use..,

2kids2dogsnosense · 14/08/2016 15:43

I know this isn't related to the original comment exactly, but does anyone know what those multicoloured -bits of plastic tat- thing is that each winner receives after they have been awarded their medal? It's sort of.

Congratulations World Class Person here is you gold medal.
Thank you very much.
And here is your Thing
Thank you. It is a beautiful Thing.
That is very kind of you to say so. We are very proud of our Things here in Brazil.
It is the most wonderful Thing I have ever received. I shall treasure it always
You are too kind
Not at all. I have never before had such a nice Thing
(Official smilingly brushes aside the compliments but it is obvious that he is secretly delighted that the Thing is really appreciated)

NeedAScarfForMyGiraffe · 14/08/2016 15:46

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Shockers · 14/08/2016 15:48

"...even for the para games"

I'm speechless.

Anmi0802 · 14/08/2016 15:53

I agreed that rio Olympics hasn't been the greatest, but Op your thread is just so arrogant, I don't think because London did well that you have to say horrible things about the Brazilian one. How can you complain about people there been booing and you come here and say bad things, it just make you exactly the same as those people.
And yes I think zika has put so many people off, unfortunately
People there are amazing and I don't think they should be criticised because of a few things is going wrong, grow up darling

Statelychangers · 14/08/2016 16:04

I think you are being a bit smug and mean spirited OP.

DesolateWaist · 14/08/2016 16:04

I mostly want to know how they know how many medals to make and what they do with any spares and what they do it they run out? Hand out little I owe you notes?

I imagine that they know exactly how many they need.
For example they know they will need 2 of each for the singles tennis. 18 of each for the coxed 8s in the rowing etc.
Work it all out and add it all up.

Cool1Cat · 14/08/2016 16:05

Agreed. There have been great moments and achievements at an event requiring massive logistics. I really don't know why you have to be so down on Brasil (as they spell it). The culture there is quite different

OneFlewOverTheDodosNest · 14/08/2016 16:10

Ah yes desolate but what about when there's a tie and more than one winner of bronze for example. Do they have to make spares just in case?

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