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To wonder why older daughters of the landed, don't just identify as men to avoid being discriminated against because of their sex and to inherit?

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Pangurban1 · 11/08/2016 21:01

It is in the news that the Duke of Westminster has died, leaving oodles of dosh, property and a title. As primogeniture, for males only, was brought in by the Normans and remains unchanged in an inheritance like this, 2 women were passed by in favour of their young brother.

As identifying as someone of the opposite sex seems to be quite a moveable feast, I don't know why they don't just use this in order not to be discriminated against because of their sex.

Many people who say their are of the opposite sex have lived lives in complete accordance with their biology. Men who say they identify as a woman having provided and imparted their male gametes to sire children in the same way as any man does. Similarly, women who say they identify as being a man, have had their own female gametes fertilized and gestated a baby just like any other woman reproduces.

So, why doesn't a woman who is passed over, simply say she identifies as a man (for the purposes of inheritance, anyway) and not be discriminated against on the basis of her sex. You can change your birth certificate now, too. And it seems you don't have to do a thing differently except say you don't really identify as the sex you appear to be or have even reproduced as.

It would be interesting to see what would happen.

AIBU to think that something that would benefit a woman and prevent her from being discriminated against based on her sex would somehow not be recognized and would be the one time someone of one sex insisting they are really the other would be called out as a crock?

OP posts:
Pangurban1 · 12/08/2016 11:58

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/11/illiterate-criminal-record-hereditary-peers-election-house-of-lords

They can still get in to legislate, elected by their peers (intended).

It is an effing joke, isn't it? Contemporary legislation okayed in both houses to discriminate against women based on sex.

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Pangurban1 · 12/08/2016 12:14

Also bans women from part of the legislature based on their sex. So women (half the adult population, even on a like for like) are today banned by legislation from some elements of the structures that make the laws of the land which they must abide by.

I can't get my head around this.

Oh yes. and I know the bishops seats in the lords was an issue of a sex ban too (until recently). It will take ages for women to be represented by that lot in proper ratios. Never mind the religious issues. However, women are not now banned from being bishops.

OP posts:
Libra · 12/08/2016 12:25

Hi OP.
Take a look at the case of Dr Elizabeth Forbes-Sempill, who re-registered herself as a man in 1953, becoming Sir Ewan Forbes-Sempill, and a baronet.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1448165/Sex-change-baronets-estate-is-sold-for-1m.html

BoffinMum · 12/08/2016 16:33

Go Sir Ewan, I say.

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